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Old 12/08/2005, 09:42 PM
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leopard wrasse

hope the answer to my ? isnt going to be yes, but is this guy gonna destroy my sps. i read everything i could while at the lfs, as far a a few books go on this guy and everything said he is reef safe. So far he seems cool but my sixline was chasing him for a little bit.

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Old 12/08/2005, 09:57 PM
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No he wont bother your sps
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Old 12/08/2005, 10:12 PM
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sweeyt, he is one awesome looking fish.

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Old 12/08/2005, 10:29 PM
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I have heard that they are reef safe. Check out the African Leopard Wrasse too!

You have to be careful with what other fish you mix them with though. I have heard they are pretty mellow fish.
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Old 12/08/2005, 10:34 PM
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well only othe fish in the tank are one antias, a sixline wrasse, a sailfin and hippo tang

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Old 12/08/2005, 11:46 PM
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My leopard is probably my best tenant.
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Old 12/09/2005, 10:09 AM
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Watch the Six line as he may harass the Leopard to much.

Leopards are a great reef fish but can be hard to acclimate and do not ship well at all.
Once acclimated to tank life they will thrive if not harassed.
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Old 12/09/2005, 11:59 AM
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you think i could do one in my new 29 gallon??? or is it 2 small?
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Old 12/09/2005, 12:05 PM
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29 would be a little tight.
You could do one of the small fairy wrasses though. Also sweet reef fish.
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Old 12/09/2005, 01:00 PM
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Leopard wrasses are dependant on pod populations to thrive in a tank, similar to mandarin dragonettes. It is likely that your sixline will not tolerate this fish being added newly to the tank. You may want to shuffle around your aquascaping to help with territorial issues.

I suggest that you purchase a leopard wrasse that is already eating prepared foods. My leopard eats everything from frozen to pellets, but still grazes on the LR all day. He buries in the sand at night and when frightened, so if you have a BB or crushed coral substrate, it won't work. I have a fine grade sand in my tank.

Definitely quarantine him, but use a tank that has never had copper in it so that you can add some LR (not much) and a container of sand for him to bury in. The rock should be from your current tank and be well cycled and full of life.

It's a lot to go through for a fish, but if you really want one, take the proper precautions to help ensure survival. They are really neat fish.

Here's a photo of mine:

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Old 12/09/2005, 01:23 PM
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Any idea if they eat sps preds such as flat worms and red bugs?

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Old 12/09/2005, 01:34 PM
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It's definitely possible. But I'd say that for quite a few wrasses. They are known to prey on small crustaceans.
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Old 12/09/2005, 03:50 PM
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I have potters leopard wrasses. They eat any food, including pellets, that I put in the tank. They have full bellies all the time, so they also snack on other things. Most of them need pods and other micro fauna to get them by until they eat prepared foods.

I have never had red bugs or acro flatworms, but that might not be because of the wrasses. Regardless, I am not going to get rid of the wrasses just in case.

DO NOT put a 6-line in with one. The 6-line will kill them. Leopards are somewhat of a delicate fish at first, but they are super hardy one they are acclimated. Like others have said, they will die if they are harassed in the beginning. Mine will take/dish some garbage once they are acclimated.

They need/like to bury in the sand, so if you QT them, make sure you have a DSB. They will likely die otherwise. I am a big fan of QT, but I would not QT this fish. Similar to a regal angel and such, they might need the reef from the beginning.

Here is a good article on them:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...hcs3/index.php
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Old 12/09/2005, 09:55 PM
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damn, all the books at the lfs said nothing about them needing sand, a problem since i am BB. well i havent sen him since yesterday, looked all over today and couldnt find him, but i did aquascape my tank to have tons of hiding places. well i'll just have to hope for the best with him.

i'll post some pics after i find him again.

my 6 line hid for a few days when i added him to the tank so i am not too worried yet.

Tim
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Old 12/10/2005, 10:57 AM
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Tim,
You can take a rubbermaid container (small one) and put some sand in it. Southdown would be good or something similar. Hide it in the back of your tank. He will use it when he finds it.

Cyclopeeze is a favorite food for my leopard.

Good luck, Tim!
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Old 12/10/2005, 06:55 PM
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thanks for all the info. since i do have that sixline in the tank, how long will the leopard wrasse hide, since i ahve not seen him for two days now.

Tim
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Old 12/10/2005, 08:52 PM
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Old 12/11/2005, 10:06 AM
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I can verify that some species of Leopard Wrasse will eat flatworms, cause they cleaned them out of my tank, but I have never heard of them eating red bugs.

Not having sand in your tank should not be a problem several of my friends don't have sand and their Leopards have no problems finding a place to hide if need be.

tstone is right, they ship very badly and I always tell customers to find them locally and to make sure they are eating before they buy them, they will bury in the sand when you first get them and never come out of the sand.
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Old 12/11/2005, 11:39 AM
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The leapord wrass in my tank never preyed on the parasitic type acro flat worms but he may have picked at the common red type.
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Old 12/11/2005, 01:36 PM
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just dave, sweet fish... a leopard wrasse is my next tank addition
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Old 12/11/2005, 03:34 PM
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well i really hate this part but while cleaning the tank last night i found the little guy. i guess you guys were right about them not shipping well or getting along with my 6 line. and i was hoping that he would work out because the tank is looking a little bring with the amount of fish it has in it

Tim
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Old 12/11/2005, 06:57 PM
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Sorry to hear, but thanks for sharing your experience with us.
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Old 12/11/2005, 08:19 PM
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Leopard wrasses are pretty fishes and they seem to do a good job on some pests and parasite. However, they are tough to keep. Even a feeding leopard tends to disappear after a while in my tank......

So given up on them and opting for yellow canary wrasse now. Easier IMO to keep..

Any yes..........they all need sand...
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Old 12/11/2005, 11:21 PM
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yeah i am giving up on getting new fish for now, maybe when i get a bigger tank but for now i am done. too risky

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Old 12/16/2005, 03:43 AM
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Don't discount the six-line's role in the death of the leopard wrasse.. I thought that ours was going to be the death of our new leopard wrasse for almost 2 weeks after we introduced him. The six line would chase him all over the tank until the LW would be breathing so fast and hard I kept expecting it to just keel over. But eventually the six-line stopped bothering him... plus it is a big tank with lots of hiding places and a sand bottom, which all of the experts say is essential for keeping these fish alive.
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