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Old 12/14/2007, 06:32 PM
TracyZeuner TracyZeuner is offline
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Unhappy First SPS-Am I killing this thing?

This is my first SPS coral and I am worried I am not caring for it the right way. Is it to close to the lights? I have T-5's( 14 bulbs- 39 watts each). I was told it needed to be as close to the top of the tank as I could get it. It is about 6-8 inches away from the light. Is it burning or bleaching?

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Old 12/14/2007, 06:44 PM
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I don't really see any tissue recession. Looks like tip growth to me.
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Old 12/14/2007, 06:45 PM
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looks good to me...
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Old 12/14/2007, 07:16 PM
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When I first got it, it was kinda fuzzy during the day. Know only at night.
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Old 12/14/2007, 07:59 PM
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sounds like you might have a fish picking on it, what fish do you have in the tank?
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Old 12/14/2007, 08:13 PM
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you have plenty of light to put it lower, i suggest you do that it might not be happy under so close to the light.
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Old 12/14/2007, 09:59 PM
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Is it just me...........or am I seeing it starting to bleach at the bottom.....
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Old 12/14/2007, 10:13 PM
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check your phosphates, i dunno what else
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Old 12/14/2007, 10:59 PM
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If it is bleaching, what should I do? Dumb question but what causes bleaching?
I watched for the tank for a while and my klein butterfly was picking on it I am going to move it a bit down and see what happens
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Old 12/14/2007, 11:13 PM
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your temp seems a little high to me, i try to keep mine under 80 but the coral looks good to me
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Old 12/15/2007, 03:33 AM
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Bleaching is caused by too much light. The "bleaching" is actually the zoanthelle algae receding or dieing from the light being too intense.

How big is the tank? Is this the 180g in your sig?

The BEST thing to do is always start them out low in the tank and let them acclimate to your lighting. Give them a couple weeks. Then move them up 6" and give them another couple weeks. Then move them up 6" again.

They don't HAVE to be right near the surface. If they are doing well and not dieing--leave them be. Regardless if they are in the sand or 6" from the sand or right on top. They will tell you when they are happy.
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Old 12/15/2007, 03:55 AM
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bleaching IS NOT caused buy to much light.....

if a coral has to depend on the symbiotic algae inside itself it will turn brown as the algae is brown(which would happen if its not getting enough light)

a coral is getting more or to much light it will be more colourful to try and protect itself from the UV rays(which would happen if it was getting a good amount of light)

corals change colours for 2 reasons.

1 As a protection from exessive UV and exposure.

2. To alter and reflect light travelling through the tissues to a different colour temperature so the symbiotic algae can utilise more of what light is given....(flourescence)

But, each coral only has a certain amount of adaptability

IMO your coral looks OK it has some nice growth tips which is a sign its happy

it is not bleaching so dont worry

i would be more worried about flow as this is usualy overlooked

what do you have ij the way off flow?

just for the record i have a 100L(sorry im in the uk) sps dominated system with 250w halides and the tank is only 14inches deep.......no skimmer,no calcium reac,no kalk stirrer, and all corals are thriving



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Old 12/15/2007, 09:07 AM
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I watched for the tank for a while and my klein butterfly was picking on it

BINGO !

the good news is that you're not killing your acro, Tracy.
the bad news is that your Butterflyfish is.
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Old 12/15/2007, 09:53 AM
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BINGO !

the good news is that you're not killing your acro, Tracy.
the bad news is that your Butterflyfish is.
Exactly!! Please look into what fish eat and their habits. Several species of butterflies are well known coral pickers and feed on the polyps. One of them has to go IMO for the coral to survive. Notice what it says is a food source for this fish http://animal-world.com/encyclo/marine/butter/klein.php
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Old 12/15/2007, 10:27 AM
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JME but moving the Acropora downwards in this case is a mistake.
Fish predation will increase the lower you place it. Keep it high and yank the Butterfly ASAP- or your experiences growing any corals will be less than stellar.
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Old 12/15/2007, 11:57 AM
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At first look this is certainly a very nice looking acro. prostrata? It is possible that this is a healthy color for this piece, especially in a nutrient poor system. I am personally very cautious about purchasing such a colorful piece, often they are not eating and starving and a lot of the zoos are dead. I would look for any white patches near the base. Some of the most amazing colored acros I have seen are one step away from rtn.

Sure hope it works well for you, if not try a orange cap they are almost bullet proof.
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Old 12/15/2007, 12:15 PM
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JME but moving the Acropora downwards in this case is a mistake.
Fish predation will increase the lower you place it. Keep it high and yank the Butterfly ASAP- or your experiences growing any corals will be less than stellar.
I agree completely, but once the fish is out she does have plenty of light to have SPS lower in the tank.
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Old 12/15/2007, 05:32 PM
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Thanks to all!!
The klein was in the tank for anemone control and it ate all the Aiptasia that I had.
I have plenty of flow-I have 2 seio 1500's and 2 Hydor pumps also
I will find a new home for the butterfly, maybe I could trade for some new corals!
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Old 12/15/2007, 06:07 PM
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bleaching IS NOT caused buy to much light.....
Light overexposure most definitely can contribute to bleaching at higher temperatures. The photosystem II reaction center proteins become unstable at high temperatures and high light can cause irreversible damage. See Warner et al., "Damage to photosystem II in symbiotic dinoflagellates: A determinant of coral bleaching" 1999. The paper notes a difference in algae damage between the top of a coral colony in full sun and the sides (lower light levels) at 88.5F.
 


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