Pacific Coast Flow Accelerator anyone tried this??

OceansWonders · #1 11/24/2007, 08:14 PM

Pacific Coast Flow Accelerator

looks interesting for a closed loop output instead of loc-line nozzels and a increse in flow up to 400%!!!! is always good!

OceansWonders · #2 11/24/2007, 08:18 PM

The design looks similar to what the maxijet mods do for the output on them to increse the flow.

Conesus_Kid · #3 11/24/2007, 08:53 PM

Looks like an eductor.

If so, that's a pretty good price.

minireefer03 · #4 11/24/2007, 09:06 PM

Looks more like some type of penductor to Me.

Conesus_Kid · #5 11/24/2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by minireefer03
Looks more like some type of penductor to Me.

I could never understand the difference between the two!

A.T.T.R · #6 11/24/2007, 10:02 PM

i belive penductor is a brand name isnt it?

kgross · #7 11/24/2007, 10:48 PM

Yes a Penductor is a brand of eductor. This one I have found works pretty good. I got a few in and love them. For the price you get the eductor as well as some ball and socket to use to adjust the direction of flow.

Kim

BeanAnimal · #8 11/25/2007, 02:22 AM

Kim, is it as large as the penductor eductors?

808-340 · #9 11/25/2007, 03:57 AM

I was sure wondering about this. Too bad they only come in 1/2" and 3/4" and not 1"

kgross · #10 11/25/2007, 10:57 AM

Bean,

The actual eductor part is a little smaller than a Penductor, over all it is larger because of the ball and socket connection. I am headed to church right now as soon as I get back I will make some measurements for you.

Kim

kgross · #11 11/25/2007, 01:25 PM

I have the 3/4 inch version. They are 6 3/8 inch long total. The eductor portion is 3 3/8 inches long the bell is 1 9/16 inch wide 2 1/8 inch long. The gap between the nozzel and start of the bell is 3/8. The opening of the nozzel I think is 5/16 in diameter.

The unit has 2 extra ball and socket joints that could be removed if you wanted to make it shorter. I had one in a small 32 gallon cube connected to a mag 7 and it seemed to increase the flow considerably in the tank. But with a tank that small it is hard to tell how much change in flow there really is. I have one now in a 75 gallon that is connected to a large pump that also flows into many other tanks, so there is not much pressure on the eductor. In changing from an 3/4 opening to the eductor the water movement at the other end of the tank appears to me to be about double.

Kim

Roland Jacques · #12 11/25/2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by 808-340
I was sure wondering about this. Too bad they only come in 1/2" and 3/4" and not 1"

have not seen any need for a 1" one of these. It looks like a better value than Penductors with the swivel ability...

eagleONE · #13 11/26/2007, 03:57 AM

Is it better than the penductor or equally the same?

barjam · #14 11/26/2007, 10:29 AM

How much flow is needed to make these things useful? I have 420gph return (pressure rated pump) would it be worth it?

Roland Jacques · #15 11/26/2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by barjam
How much flow is needed to make these things useful? I have 420gph return (pressure rated pump) would it be worth it?

I would not recomend using penductors with any pump with less than 19'max head pressure

Roland Jacques · #16 11/26/2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by barjam
How much flow is needed to make these things useful? I have 420gph return (pressure rated pump) would it be worth it?

I would NOT use penductors with any pumps with less than 19' of max head pressure.

barjam · #17 11/26/2007, 02:58 PM

That answers that, mine is only 14.1. Thanks Roland.

eagleONE · #18 11/26/2007, 03:55 PM

Roland, or anyone explain the max head pressure to me. I am unfamiliar with it. I have an OR3500 thats 900gph and a "max head" of 10.5ft. Not sure what that all means...

jay

barjam · #19 11/26/2007, 03:56 PM

That means if you try to pump it straight up the pump would be unable to pump higher than 10.5 feet (under ideal conditions). Since eductors take pressure to run Roland is saying his rule of thumb is that if the pump can't pump at least 19' of head, it isn't suitable for use as an eductor.

eagleONE · #20 11/26/2007, 04:35 PM

wait... doesn't eductors work on the principle of pushing surrounding water by the existing water being pushed by the pump?

kgross · #21 11/26/2007, 05:31 PM

Basicly that is correct. They use a high velocity water stream to pull surrounding water into the stream moving more total water than the pump does on its own.

Kim

Conesus_Kid · #22 11/26/2007, 07:17 PM

Kim,

What pump are you using on these?

Thanks.

kgross · #23 11/26/2007, 07:20 PM

The pump the one is on right now is a large sequence pump, with lots of other outlets. I have also connected one to a mag 7 and it seemed to move quite a bit more water with the mag 7 than the mag did by itself.

I need to find some time to do some more testing with one and see how well it works with different pumps.

kim

eagleONE · #24 11/26/2007, 08:37 PM

So, is it really necessary for high pressure rated pump if all it is doing is pushing surrounding water? I'm trying to figure this out....

Jay

barjam · #25 11/26/2007, 09:01 PM

http://www.pumpsofoklahoma.com/eductor.htm

If your pump can't produce high enough pressure, step one fails.