Zoo Dip Update

[MUCHO REEF]

Zoo Dip Update

Instead of using 2 drops of Lugols for a zoo dip, I am now using 4 to 5 drops per gallon of RO water with equal results and no harm at all. I have used up to 5 drops per gallon on at least 12 new arrivals this year. It’s perfectly safe and equally effective.

There is much to be gained from the medicinal properties of the Lugol's. Most importantly, its antiseptic properties when used after doing a bit on surgery on your zoos.

I also wanted to clear something up. I use the same dip for treating sick or nudi infested zoos, as I do with new arrivals that look perfectly healthy. I treat them all the same. I highly recommend running your actinics only for the entire day after a dip. It has work so well for me for many years now. My zoos have always recovered quicker running the actinics only instead of hitting them with 10k's, 14k's etc. right after a dip. Zoos are hardy, yes, but they are still prone to stress. If you don't have actinics, keeping your tank dark for the rest of the day will do the trick as well.

I also believe in checking my zoos out, colony by colony every single morning. I take a quick 5 minute scan every morning, if there is an issue, you must try to tackle it on the first or second day. The longer you wait, the less likely there is a chance that anything will work to bring them back, even the dip. I certainly hope I don't sound like I'm preaching, but you will be surprise at how many zoos that I have saved by catching them day one and hitting it hard with a dip. I can't help it, I just hate to see the stories of polyp lost that could have been salvaged with early detection. I guess we have to treat our zoos like we treat our own bodies. If we stay proactive, I'm positive the number of fatalities will drop.


Just crazy about zoos I guess.

Mucho

[xtm]

Thanks for the tip!

When you dip with Lugol's, do you use the same saltwater that the zoos were in, or is this a Freshwater dip with Lugol's?

Mucho Thanks!

[brc0488]

whats the percent of iodine in the lugols stuff?

[cubano2480]

Thanks for the tip!

When you dip with Lugol's, do you use the same saltwater that the zoos were in, or is this a Freshwater dip with Lugol's?

Mucho Thanks!

Freshwater with Lugols

[Me No Nemo]

Hey Much, I just bought the Lugol's to do the dip as you suggested, since I seem to have a couple of colonies that get a brown (fungus?) coating over them that seems to cause them to close up them just die off. Most of my colonies are great, and I did save one a few weeks ago following the directions for your dip. But am just curious. The bottle suggests "40 drops per one gallon of aquarium water" for coral dips. Is that because they are suggesting saltwater? I am going with your suggestion, but would like to know, just for knowing's sake, why they would suggest eight times the strength you suggest. Also, what do you think is going on with mine? I have about 30 colonies at this time and only a few get this and then I move them immediately to the QT when I see it. Thanks for your time. Marcye

[AquAsylum]

2 questions, Mucho...

Please clarify your experience with, or what you have heard from others regarding, the various types of Iodine. My understanding is that you use the Lugol's from a pharmacy/drugstore (i.e., made for humans). There is also the Kent Marine Lugol's Iodine, and then the Kent Marine Iodine supplement.

Second, do you have a list of species that should NOT be dipped using this method? My impression is that it is safe for just about any soft/polyp coral, but it would be helpful to know if there are some species that are too sensitive to recover.

I know this has been discussed in some other threads, but it would be nice to have it definitively answered in your thread, as that is where most people go for this information.

Thanks very much for your threads on this- I am just starting out with corals and plan to use this dip whenever I introduce a new specimen.

[Smo]

Originally posted by brc0488
whats the percent of iodine in the lugols stuff?

From the MSDS for Lugol's Iodine:

PRODUCT: Lugol's Solution
SECTION II. HAZARDOUS MATERIALS % CAS No. DOT Classification
Potassium Iodide 10% 7681-11-0 Not Regulated
Iodine 5% 7553-56-2 Not Regulated

[MUCHO REEF]

AquAsylum, I have always and only used Lugol's Iodine. Of which I have never seen on the shelf at any Drug store, Market etc. I have only seen and purchased it from on line reef related sites and LFS. I have never used the Kent Iodine products so I can't honestly comment on them.

I don't have a list of corals that will or won't tolerate an iodine dip, and it isn't safe to say that all softies can handle a dip. I had a small list many years ago but I think I deleted the file when I purchased my new PC. I do recall a few softies that will perish quickly if exposed to excessive levels of Iodine, I simply can't remember what was on the list. Lugol's is indeed highly concentrated and at levels above 0.06 NSW, (NATURAL SEA WATER), it can be deadly in a reef tank to those species that are most sensitive to it.

I would suggest posting a thread asking that very question. The wealth of knowledge on this board is endless and I would seek out an answers from the expert reefers on this board whom I'm sure will have an answer for you. I would also shoot a PM to Nagel ( the Moderator ) with your question. He is also an endless source of information.

Mooch

[goldmaniac]

ok read the entire thread, Mucho, sounds like you are DA MAN

I'm (hopefully) getting 8 zoa colonies today, will find/buy Lugol's.

My question:

the procedure I'm reading is bag --> fw dip --> acclimation .

Is there a good reason not to acclimate in a separate bucket, THEN freshwater dip, THEN into the display tank?

What I do (the norm, I assume) is acclimate to tank water while in a separate bucket, and then put into the tank.

I plan to acclimate to tank water in a bucket, then freshwater dip, then take out of dip and put into display tank, which by that time is the same water as the acclimation bucket.

Is that so wrong?

G.

[goldmaniac]

OK, I've been looking at all the local fish stores for Lugol's , either they don't carry it or they're out of it. I have a shipment of zoa's coming in (hopefully) today.

I plan on getting Lugol's for future use, but for this shipment..

I WAS able to acquire Iodine Tinture (sp?) solution, ingredients are 100% iodine tinture, active ingredient is 2% iodine.

This MSDS I'm quoting below says that Lugol's is 5% iodine. What does everyone think of using 250% the amount of drops used for Lugol's with my Iodine Tinture solution?

Mucho's formula:

Lugol's solution: 5 drops/gallon of RO, @ 5% iodine

My idea:

iodine tinture solution: 12 drops/gallon of RO @ 2% iodine

there is no Potassium Iodide in the bottle I picked up.

G.

Originally posted by Smo
From the MSDS for Lugol's Iodine:

PRODUCT: Lugol's Solution
SECTION II. HAZARDOUS MATERIALS % CAS No. DOT Classification
Potassium Iodide 10% 7681-11-0 Not Regulated
Iodine 5% 7553-56-2 Not Regulated