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Old 04/14/2007, 10:25 PM
norcal99 norcal99 is offline
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Hey Grim, I'm about at that point where I bulb suggestions for a 4x24w T5HO setup on a 20H and want a nice Phoenix 14k MH look. I was thinking of the following combos:

Front
Blue Plus
Aquablue
Giesemann 11k aquablue
Blue Plus
Back

OR

Front
Blue Plus
Aquablue
GE 3000K
UVL Super Actinic
Back

Do you think that either combo will be too white or should I swap out the Giesemann for a different bulb? Add a second ATI Aquablue, GE 3000K? Thanks
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Old 04/14/2007, 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by norcal99
Hey Grim, I'm about at that point where I bulb suggestions for a 4x24w T5HO setup on a 20H and want a nice Phoenix 14k MH look. I was thinking of the following combos:

Front
Blue Plus
Aquablue
Giesemann 11k aquablue
Blue Plus
Back

OR

Front
Blue Plus
Aquablue
GE 3000K
UVL Super Actinic
Back

Do you think that either combo will be too white or should I swap out the Giesemann for a different bulb? Add a second ATI Aquablue, GE 3000K? Thanks
Try
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
GE 6500K
Aquablue
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Old 04/14/2007, 11:25 PM
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Try this instead

Front
Aquablue
Super Actinic
Aquasun
Blue Plus
Aquablue

Only reason for changing positions is how the lamps are wired. that arrangement gives you the super actinic and the blue plus on one cord for a coold dusk/dawn look.
Thanks Grim I'll give that a try.
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Old 04/15/2007, 12:07 AM
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I have also tried the combo with 6500K. I have found mixing the 6500K will wash a lot of the blue out. My friend has 2 Aquablues and 2 Blue+'s and that looks right on for a phoenix 14K.
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Old 04/15/2007, 03:04 PM
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Grim
my current bulbs in my Solar Flare are
UV Actinic White
UV Super Actinic
UV Aqua Sun
UV Actinic White
UV Super Actinic
UV Aqua Sun

I would like to get a slightly Bluer look some were between 15K and 20K with out loosing to much PAR since the tank is SPS

I was thinking
UV Actinic White
UV Super Actinic
KZ Coral Light
UV Aqua Sun
ATI Blue Plus
Aqua blue Special

What do you think?
Here is a pic of my tank now
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Old 04/15/2007, 03:47 PM
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I have also tried the combo with 6500K. I have found mixing the 6500K will wash a lot of the blue out. My friend has 2 Aquablues and 2 Blue+'s and that looks right on for a phoenix 14K.
It also bring out yellow and red colors in corals much better than using a simple 50/50 mix of blues an aquablues.
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Old 04/15/2007, 03:50 PM
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Grim
my current bulbs in my Solar Flare are
UV Actinic White
UV Super Actinic
UV Aqua Sun
UV Actinic White
UV Super Actinic
UV Aqua Sun

I would like to get a slightly Bluer look some were between 15K and 20K with out loosing to much PAR since the tank is SPS

I was thinking
UV Actinic White
UV Super Actinic
KZ Coral Light
UV Aqua Sun
ATI Blue Plus
Aqua blue Special

What do you think?
Here is a pic of my tank now
Swap 2 Actinic white for 2 ATI Blue Plus,. You will gain blue and PAR.
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Old 04/15/2007, 03:52 PM
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what do you think of the kz coral light
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Old 04/15/2007, 04:07 PM
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Dunno anything about them yet.
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Old 04/15/2007, 04:47 PM
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Grimm great info. I have another question

I am looking for a light for a 75 FOWLR that I eventually want to add Soft corals, no hard corals...what T5 fixture and lighting do you suggest.

I have clownfish and want to add an anenome to start but other soft later.

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Old 04/15/2007, 05:00 PM
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Hi, do you have an opinion on the new retrofit kit or fixture "Glo" T5 HO from Hagen?
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Old 04/15/2007, 07:16 PM
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Grimm great info. I have another question

I am looking for a light for a 75 FOWLR that I eventually want to add Soft corals, no hard corals...what T5 fixture and lighting do you suggest.

I have clownfish and want to add an anenome to start but other soft later.

Thanks for any suggestions.
At least 4 lamps, 6 would be better.
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Old 04/15/2007, 07:17 PM
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Hi, do you have an opinion on the new retrofit kit or fixture "Glo" T5 HO from Hagen?
Never seems them
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Old 04/15/2007, 07:46 PM
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At least 4 lamps, 6 would be better.
What about the Aquactinic 5 light?

What configuration would you suggest with that light?

Or should I do Tek Special Edition?

Thanks again!
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Old 04/15/2007, 08:05 PM
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Never seems them
Ok, Thanks. I didn't find any info on the web yet but I've seen them in stores.
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Old 04/15/2007, 08:49 PM
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I know it's probably buried in here somewhere, but does any one know how many watts a 660 will run 39w bulbs at?
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Old 04/15/2007, 09:07 PM
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Ok, I've been reading thru way to much of this thread but still cant find the answer.

I'll be running T5 ballasts overdriving 54W bulbs with 2x54W ballasts. Can I run T5HO bulbs with these? I'm sure I can, but would it be more efficient to run standard T5's?

I read something about running 3 11000K, 2 25000K, and 1 6500K
Anybody run this? They say it runs at the peak of each spectrum and gives a slight blue a little more subtle than acintics, but a bit more natural whit light.
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Old 04/15/2007, 09:12 PM
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What about the Aquactinic 5 light?

What configuration would you suggest with that light?

Or should I do Tek Special Edition?

Thanks again!
I would go with the Aquactinics.

Try

Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
Aquasun
Blue Plus
Aquablue
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Old 04/15/2007, 09:13 PM
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I know it's probably buried in here somewhere, but does any one know how many watts a 660 will run 39w bulbs at?
60ish
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Old 04/15/2007, 09:15 PM
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Ok, I've been reading thru way to much of this thread but still cant find the answer.

I'll be running T5 ballasts overdriving 54W bulbs with 2x54W ballasts. Can I run T5HO bulbs with these? I'm sure I can, but would it be more efficient to run standard T5's?

I read something about running 3 11000K, 2 25000K, and 1 6500K
Anybody run this? They say it runs at the peak of each spectrum and gives a slight blue a little more subtle than acintics, but a bit more natural whit light.
??? How are you going to overdrive using T5 ballasts
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Old 04/15/2007, 09:56 PM
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grim, thanks for the quick reply and all the work you put into this. it's a huge help to everyone
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Old 04/15/2007, 10:44 PM
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I'm looking to run t5s on my 260 however I'm concerned about the depth of my tank being too much to run nothing but t5s.
My setup is 84l, 24w and 27 depth (depth is from water line to sand) I'm currently running 4x48" TRU 10,000k bulbs driven by an icecap 660 and DIY reflectors made from diamond plated hanging shoplights.... Should I go all t5s or keep 2 250w halides? My goal is to eventually be able to keep anything I want..
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Old 04/15/2007, 11:18 PM
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If you want to run only T5's get good lamps and reflectors.
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Old 04/15/2007, 11:23 PM
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If you want to run only T5's get good lamps and reflectors.
What constitutes "good" lamps?
I bought the TRUs from hellolights... Is there a better brand and retailer. (I actually like the color of the TRU so, if it gets better than that.... I'm definately interested.....
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Old 04/16/2007, 12:25 AM
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ATI hs the best output for the most part. Giesemanns are pretty good too and so are UVL.If the Tru lamps cost less than 15 bux I seriously doubt they are going to have the same output as the better lamp, you get what you pay for.
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