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  #551  
Old 04/11/2007, 12:49 AM
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Dont think he needs the starboard with the PVC bottom.
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Old 04/11/2007, 01:35 AM
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i got it i miss understood the pvc bottum.
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Old 04/11/2007, 07:58 AM
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So far it's been great Steve. I like the consistency, but only time will tell.
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Old 04/12/2007, 03:40 PM
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So far it's been great Steve. I like the consistency, but only time will tell.
Can i ask what the difference there is between this and the stuff you have listed. when you look at the mx amount there the same as the salt.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113009
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Old 04/12/2007, 10:54 PM
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Naka,
what reactions do you have to feeding the pappone (sp?)
Have you noticed the kind of differences mentioned in the other thread on the italian reefs? i.e., everything starting to spawn, etc...
Thanks for a great tank,
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Old 04/12/2007, 11:36 PM
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hey naka finnaly got my tank going putting water in it now...

starphire 60x24x24 150 gallon......

i have (2) 1-1/2 drains should i use both or just run one and use one as emergency..??? what are you running on your tank naka???
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Old 04/13/2007, 05:41 AM
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servicky, get some pics up, that tank sounds like its going to be nice.
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Old 04/13/2007, 10:29 AM
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there in my gallery.... take a look im having a problem with my dual overflows when they exit into the sump the sump fills up in that section then overflows over a divider but the water is going to fast making loud noises.....pouring into the skimmer section....
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Old 04/13/2007, 01:58 PM
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Steve, I think it's the same, just different pakaging.

Geoff, too early to tell w/ Pappone, but I'm seeing great PE and growth. I'll do some more growth shots in couple of months.

Congratulations Servicky on your new tank! I have only 1 x 1.5" drain for my tank. I really don't need anything bigger b/c my return is rated for 600 gph. I don't know what your return pump is, but I don't think you need to run both drains. I say use one as a emergency backup.
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Old 04/13/2007, 02:51 PM
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would i do a durso on the second drain as well??? like 1 inch higher???? or just a straight pipe up about an inch from my existing durso..???
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Old 04/13/2007, 03:15 PM
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I got this acro from RM last year as a. kimbeensis. Doesn't look like kimbeensis, but rather some deepwater species. What do you think?

RM picture


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2/2007


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Maybe a Lokani ??? My Lokani looks similar but it might have a smoother surface than your coral and my polyps are more blue where yours are tan with a green base...
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Old 04/13/2007, 04:03 PM
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Servicky, I would get 2 x CJ standpipes. They are easily adjustable and takes up less space. I got mine from Nautilus Reef
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Old 04/13/2007, 09:39 PM
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Servicky, I would get 2 x CJ standpipes. They are easily adjustable and takes up less space. I got mine from Nautilus Reef
2nd that
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Old 04/13/2007, 10:38 PM
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looks totaly diffrent though
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Old 04/19/2007, 10:19 PM
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Servicky, I would get 2 x CJ standpipes. They are easily adjustable and takes up less space. I got mine from Nautilus Reef
is there a special won to order because they look like they are designed for external. I know you have internal. i might have missed it on there sight but do you have a ballpark on price.
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Old 04/19/2007, 11:01 PM
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I have an external dual overflow.. Two 1-1/2
Just put fresh kalini rock in my tank weeewww it stinks my skimmers goin nuts. water is all brownish yellow.... i did a 10 gallon water change the second day.... what should i do.. i got 179 lbs and now i just orderd another 179 hehehe 400lbs of rock in a 150.. i dont thinks its giong to fit..
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Old 04/20/2007, 10:27 PM
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I understand that you use the zeovit system in combination with the pappone. Did you use sugar in the pappone recipe? People that have done a ZEO/Pappone hybrid method have noticed RTN or STN. Why? The sugar is a carbon source. So is the Zeo Start 2. Supposedly if these are both used in combination your corals will suffer. You have an awesome reef and I wouldn't want to see it go because of a mistake like this. Just a word of warning though.
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Old 04/21/2007, 08:48 AM
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I've stopped zeovit since the addition of pappone. There was period of about 2 weeks when the 2 methods combined, but slowly I've stopped zeovit.
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Old 04/21/2007, 11:08 AM
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any problems with stopping the zeo.
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Old 04/21/2007, 01:58 PM
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No problem at all.
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Old 04/21/2007, 02:08 PM
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awsome....well i got uncured live rock.. (kalini) not to bad looking.. only problem is i got too much 320 lbs.... in a 150......
im going to sell about 100 lbs so i sould have around 200 ish in a 150 gallon tank.. should be a good ratio...... they sent me an extra box so i took it...... 88 lbs extra....
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Old 04/21/2007, 06:26 PM
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Ok... Good!
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Old 04/21/2007, 06:58 PM
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No problem at all.
If you don't mind me asking why did you stop ZEO and switch to the Pappone? Did the ZEO do anything negative? Or are you just trying out the other methods?
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Old 04/21/2007, 09:46 PM
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I was very impressed w/ the growth and colors of Italian tanks, so I fed my corals Pappone while doing zeovit. I noticed increase in growth and love the colors (rich pastel). Slowly increased pappone feeding and decreased zeovit dosing. It took almost 2 months of transition for me to stop zeovit.
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Old 04/21/2007, 10:06 PM
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I agree with naka. The Italian thread is the reason why I am using the pappone too.
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