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Old 06/07/2006, 04:55 PM
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Unhappy White spots with high nitrates

I have a 2 year old FWLR 100G aquarium.

Recently I had a pump failure and did not notice it.
By the time the problem was fixed.
My Nitrates where at a level of +-30ppm.

I did a large water replacement.
Nitrates are decreasing and are currently just above 10ppm.

Unfortunately my regal tang has started to develop white spots with the water changes.

I have no quarantine tank.
And I am planning on giving the fish a fresh water dip.

The problem is I know that my tang really stresses easy.
And I don’t think my fish will handle it.
What is the best way to treat the fish before my other fish also get white spots?
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Old 06/07/2006, 04:58 PM
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If it is ich the prefered way is to treat all fish with hypo and leave your tank fishless for 6-8 weeks. There are supposed reef safe treatments, but I have never heard of a 100% success story on them. No sick fish is one or kick ich. Hypo will kill all LR so a QT tank or even a rubbermaid container big enough for your fish will be fine.

Ich is only visible during one stage in its life cycle so your other fish may be infected and you wouldnt know it.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:05 PM
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So what you are saying is that I have no other option than to move all my fish to a quarantine tank.

And leave my tank fishless for 6-8 weeks.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:09 PM
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How do I setup a quarantine tank and have it cycled before it is to late.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:10 PM
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You can try other options such as the reef safe meds. You could also try a cleaner shrimp as some do.
What I am saying is that in your case, if i diagnosed it as ich then I would set up a QT and treat my fish with hypo and leave my tank fishless for 6-8 weeks. I actually just finished this exact treatment about a month ago. Fish are all doing great and no signs of ich.

Diseased fish pics:
http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=127010

Hypo:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...osalinity.html

Other possible treatment options:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...marineich.html
and...
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:13 PM
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if your just seeing signs you have some time, but it does reproduce rapidly.

I used water from mymain display to fill my QT. If you have any filter floss or bio wheel/filter you could use those.

You can post this problem in the diseased fish forum for other options but I think you will get the same answers.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:18 PM
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Thanx kraze3.
PS: Cool avatar.
I Have the same one on another page.

Will open a post under "diseased fish forum"

Any other comments will still help though.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:19 PM
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My advice would be to set up at QT, get it cycled ASAP, and use hypo...from what I have read it is the most successfully consistent way to get rid of ich.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:22 PM
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Thanks, love that little squirel

No problem im just trying to help ya.
Like i said I just went thru an ich problem and this is how i treated it. It was the easiest and most prefered in the feedback i got in the diseased forum.

If you do go QT put some pvc in the bottom for hiding places, no substrate and no LR.

GL!
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:30 PM
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If I use no substrate and no LR.
What will the bacteria grow on???
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:33 PM
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Hypo is going to kill the bacteria anyways. Your just using it as a QT. Do frequent water changes and keep an eye on your parameters

Read the link on hypo before you go about it.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:40 PM
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Yup. Took a quick look at the page. Looks like the way to go.

But what about the bacteria in my main tank.
No bio load = no bacteria at the end of the day.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:51 PM
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you should have snails, hermits, or maybe shrimp etc. The tank should be fine fishless, if your worried you could still add some flakes or soemthing from time to time to get some decomposing material. My tank was just fine, i dont think it is a big issue.
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Old 06/07/2006, 05:53 PM
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Well I will take it from someone that has done it before.
What size is your tank???
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Old 06/07/2006, 06:06 PM
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75 gallon

I used 2 10 gallon tanks for a qt. Had 2 clowns a coral beauty, royal gramma, and black and white damsel.

Like i said the people in the diseased fish forum maybe able to give you a more technical answer. I have read many posts in there and never saw anyone ask that question. I think its a good q actually. All I know is i have done it successfully and have read many others have also. Think about when rock is shipped, it is kept in damp cloths for up to 5 days in a box with no light and still the bacteria and even some hitchikers survive. Again i dont think its a problem.
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Old 06/07/2006, 06:14 PM
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Ok. I think I have gone way of topic.
And it is time to start a new thread.
Thanx for all your help.

Cheers.
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