Where did the BB idea come from, and what made it popular - Page 2

omni2226 · #26 05/15/2006, 11:00 PM

Umm I think the troll comment was aimed at someone else besides you phyclord...

mesocosm · #27 05/15/2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by moonpod
... It's basically a revisiting of the berlin methodology of the late 80's early 90's

What's up, moonpod?

The first BB system I ever got a close look at was in the pre-Berlin early 1980's ... it was presented as a way to help control nutrients in the then "revolutionary" wet-dry filtration system.

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The more things change, the more they revert back to the "old" ways.

ROTFL ... how very true.

physicslord · #28 05/15/2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by omni2226
Umm I think the troll comment was aimed at someone else besides you phyclord...

Living under this bridge makes me hyper sensitive sometimes...

omni2226 · #29 05/15/2006, 11:09 PM

First marine tank I ever tried was in 1983.

40 gallon long with underfravel. Substrate was "must have" coarse crushed coral and oyster shells mixed. Air pump to run the filter (I couldnt afford powerheads, too pricy). I remember the talk about trickle filters at the pet shop. "A passing fad" was what most people (well the 3 or 4 who went to this store on a regular basis) said.

Never heard of live rock or berlin methods then. Wonder what happened to the oyster shell substrate idea.....

clkwrk · #30 05/15/2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by physicslord
Seems to me there was a time I didn't get flamed for everything I posted on RC.
Just an observation.

You aren't the troll

tankslave · #31 05/16/2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Masoch
Deep linking into other, competing reef boards is a no-no -- especially when linking to posts by RC's former experts.

However, do have a poke around Marine Depot's forums.

See, I dont get that policy. It seems to be invoked at will of the mods. There is often very good info which can be helpful to everyone, and I think that the spirit of the boards is to disseminate information, not repress it. The commercial policies, OK, though I dont understand why they get all up in arms about that either.

kevensquint · #32 05/16/2006, 06:43 PM

I second that. It is beyond me why information that may be helpful to people in this hobby and is dealing specifically with this hobby would be censured or a NO-NO. Censuring is for hurtful or insulting information, certainly not for information by someone who is considered an expert in this hobby. If this is the case, there is no more freedom here than in China or Cuba. MO

Masoch · #33 05/16/2006, 09:48 PM

Back in January, I had a post edited to remove a link to Dr. Ron's blog -- not because it violated the EULA (I checked, it didn't), but because it interfered with the community's "healing" after all that nastiness in December.

*shrug*

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with policy, just pointing out that the EULA most people click through, but don't read, does have some interesting tidbits.

tankslave · #34 05/17/2006, 10:52 AM

ditto to that.

I've had my avatar edited. I had that "Censorship is Un-American" guy, and they didnt like that...

But I'll shut up now before they come after me again...

physicslord · #35 05/17/2006, 12:40 PM

Another thing that's sad is the next generation is never going to know why it says:

"A border collie is my pilot animal" at the bottom of my posts.

This place has changed...

Kogo · #36 05/17/2006, 01:01 PM

is this where the soft music is supposed to start playing?

maro1 · #37 05/17/2006, 05:11 PM

I agree with an earlier post that said

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Seems to me if you want sand, put it in and maintain it.

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If you dont want sand, dont put it in and maintain it.

But My question is with a 300 gal tank I am setting up. How much flow can I go with out a dust storm occuring on a tank 24" deep?

Mar

tankslave · #38 05/17/2006, 05:30 PM

Its not so much, how much flow, but where. The DSB guys will tell ya that you got to tweek it so that you dont blow any sand. Well, if the sand aint blowin, that tells me that there aint no flow.

No flow, means detritus settles. You can let your sandbed suck that up for a few years, or you could ditch the sandbed, put the flow where you really need it, and siphon it out of your sump, or just let your skimmer take it out.

Generally you want at least 10x turnover for sps. AT LEAST. Now, there's also slow flow and fast flow. If you have all that flow coming out of a 2.5" dia pipe, and you say I got 3000gph coming out, why dont my acros grow, well, I can tell you that the water VELOCITY in your tank isnt very good. You can have a slow, large laminar flow, or fast chaotic flow. Put some penductors on there, or any reduced nozzle (not the whole pipe, that'll kill your pump with head pressure), and see the difference.

You want to see your fish on a treadmill, is what i'm saying.