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Old 08/15/2005, 10:17 PM
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Question building stand for 210

i'm building a 210 gal into the wall but i'm undecided what to use for a stand should i go with heavy duty wood construction or metal frame? Not to sure... but will be heavy after finished like 2 tons with water rock ect...
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Old 08/15/2005, 10:56 PM
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Might need to hire a structural engineer. Since this is a small job I could draw up a design and get it approved by a structural engineer this would cost roughly 3-4 hundred US. If you want more info just reply. I would also need some information regarding the support system of the house

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Old 08/15/2005, 11:03 PM
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And just to be clear... I cannot enter any agreement(s) until an agreement is signed.. and this "Quick quote" does not include CAD drawings or Engineering stamps... only on few calcs and a sketch.
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Old 08/15/2005, 11:30 PM
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The metal frames are great just make sure theat you get it powder coated so it will not rust.
Also they are easy to sheet with thin plywood.
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Old 08/16/2005, 06:24 AM
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nice
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Old 08/16/2005, 07:25 AM
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There is no need to getting structural engineers for something this simple 2X4's is all you need to build the stand. Metal will be much more expensive after welding and powdercoating is done. Check out the DIY forum and you will see many stands that you can get ideas from.
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Old 08/16/2005, 08:13 AM
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A 210 is not that big of a tank. I built the stand for my 200 gallon from 2X4's and skinned it with 1/4" plywood.
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Old 08/16/2005, 11:11 AM
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ok thnks for great tips
i didn't think i needed a engineer. I have a good idea how to build it but i was wondering what kind of material. Wood it is..
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Old 08/16/2005, 11:19 AM
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yeah; wood is really strong in that direction. if you want to over engineer it; go with 2x6 or 4x4. for legs and supports. Id definitly go with 6 legs to make sure it doesnt sag in the middle. but it should have no problems.

the bigger question is about where its going; at that size and weight you do need to worry about what floor its on. slab would be best; otherwise you might want to shore up the floor; make sure its on or near a load bearing support wall, and maybe shore up the floor under it; itd suck if there was a weak spot and one of the legs punched through the plywood.

maybe frame off the legs; so its sitting on a square rather than 6 points.
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Old 08/17/2005, 04:10 PM
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ok i'm finished building to stand. It's a 2x6 construction in the basement on the concrete floor. I put every 16 inches as a normal wall. It will be all behind a wall so i think it is good to go.
My uncle is an engineer and he says that it will be alright. It will support the tank.
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Old 08/17/2005, 04:40 PM
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Here's the thread for my 300gal. tank stand...I havent gotten any more done, than what you see in the pics, but you get the idea.

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...t=300gal+stand
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Old 08/17/2005, 05:23 PM
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2x4's work great....

If you go with a double door opening with no center brace I would use 2x6's for the top frame, just some added insurance for the long haul!!
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Old 08/17/2005, 07:05 PM
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heres a pic....
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Old 08/17/2005, 08:15 PM
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Looks just fine....almost EXACTLY what my stand for the 300gal. is gonne look like.

What are you gonna sheet it in? I was thinking of birch or maple plywood, for mine, if it's not too expensive.
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Old 08/17/2005, 08:31 PM
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i'm going to put it all in a wall. So drywall in the front. Convinced wife to move walls

to cover the back and sides just some cheap panelling..

Just finished plywooding the top. Here we go. Phone 4 guys to lift tank will post pic soon..
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Old 08/17/2005, 08:35 PM
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looks good
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Old 08/17/2005, 08:39 PM
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The only thing with that stand is that the wood is stronger standing on its edge........You have plenty of bracing to stop the sag of the wood laid flat, but you can get by with less bracing if you turn the wood on its edge....
less bracing=less cost in wood.

Just my .02 cents.....
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Old 08/17/2005, 09:15 PM
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ok heres a pic with the stand and tank
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Old 08/20/2005, 04:11 PM
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ok all just finished the wall around the tank.... i was woundering about lighting. I have 2 175 mh current on 55 gal with 3' atinics vho's what should i use for this tank. I was thinking 3 175 mh and 4 4 ' atinic vho's
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