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Old 11/17/2007, 03:28 PM
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Question is ATI going out of busness?

i have been looking at the ATI bubble master for some time now and have heard that they are claiming bankruptcies? if so then if one of the pumps goes bad the what would i do. can any one give me some info on what is happening.
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Old 11/17/2007, 03:36 PM
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if the pumps go bad you can get a new one through the manufacturer of the pumps --- sicce
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Old 11/17/2007, 03:46 PM
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This was a rumor that seem to have been originated on the Premium Aquatics forum, but was since deleted. Here we go again.

I don't think so since the ATi Powermoduls are still coming in and the ATi T5 bulbs has been the most effective par along with UVL, and gaining popularity.

As for warranty support, ReefGeek handles all that as they are the exclusive importer for ATi products. RG has had one of the best customer service and they're required to carry all replacement parts for the BM skimmers.
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Old 11/18/2007, 06:16 PM
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I don't believe RG is exclusive...
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Old 11/18/2007, 07:00 PM
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I don't believe RG is exclusive...
RG is the master dealer for ATi products in USA, all other dealers must buy from RG.

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This was a rumor that seem to have been originated on the Premium Aquatics forum, but was since deleted. Here we go again.
PA publicly and privately apologized to ATi for making those comments, so it's a close subject. Of course, many felt it should have never been said in the first place, whether true or not.

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if so then if one of the pumps goes bad the what would i do. can any one give me some info on what is happening.
Matt
I wouldn't worry about this because of both mentioned in above posts. RG as a master dealer should have everything in stock to cover any problems. Also, you can always go back to the pump company that makes the pumps for ATi and it is Sicce.

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Old 11/18/2007, 08:10 PM
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How can this be with the ati brand. www.diyreef.com offers cheaper pricing than reefgeek for bulb's? I don't know if that is true import wise.
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Old 11/18/2007, 08:13 PM
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Old 11/19/2007, 12:58 AM
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Is there something you know, or is this more of the same nonsense that PA retracted?

Seriously, thing's like this are pretty low, so unless you've got some facts and truth to contribute, I think the subject should be cleared up and left at that.
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Old 11/19/2007, 04:02 AM
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Is there something you know, or is this more of the same nonsense that PA retracted?

Seriously, thing's like this are pretty low, so unless you've got some facts and truth to contribute, I think the subject should be cleared up and left at that.
Looks like he is just spreading more of the same king.
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Old 11/19/2007, 04:23 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CruzinKim
[B]RG is the master dealer for ATi products in USA, all other dealers must buy from RG.


I'm pretty sure this is incorrect, but ooookay...

All that aside, ATI hasn't exactly proven itself to be remarkably reliable when it comes to filling product orders on the wholesale side. Mayhap this has something to do with the rumors?
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Old 11/19/2007, 05:52 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 3.99AfterTaxes
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RG is the master dealer for ATi products in USA, all other dealers must buy from RG.


I'm pretty sure this is incorrect, but ooookay...

All that aside, ATI hasn't exactly proven itself to be remarkably reliable when it comes to filling product orders on the wholesale side. Mayhap this has something to do with the rumors?
Well its true, Just like proline brings in RE stuff.
Then you could say the same about RE/Bubblekings. They have problems filling orders world wide as well.

Matt/corn, I dont think this is true. There are some companys that would love for ATI to go under. ATI has been very professional about certain competitors trying to slander them in this way.
This isnt the first time, and doubt it will be the last sad to say.
Oliver from ATI has addressed this and said they were in the process of expanding and them going under could not be further from the truth. I believe this. Everything the guy has stated to me has been true thus far.
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Old 11/19/2007, 07:27 AM
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Is there something you know, or is this more of the same nonsense that PA retracted?

Seriously, thing's like this are pretty low, so unless you've got some facts and truth to contribute, I think the subject should be cleared up and left at that.
there are rumors going around about them and also another skimmer company that makes bio-cube skimmers.
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Old 11/19/2007, 08:26 AM
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Are you feed on from rumors ?

and by the way it's not a stock market that you put there your saving...... if something happen always there is exchange....

when i saw that post i ask Mr' Oliver and he comment to that immediately , also Greg from Reef Geek told me personal that shipping from ATI in germany still come in...

hope it will be more clearly from RG or ATI .






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there are rumors going around about them and also another skimmer company that makes bio-cube skimmers.
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Old 11/19/2007, 09:02 AM
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Just take it with a grain of salt, that why you see really little threads about things like this here.

When AGA aquarium was sold or when they brought oceanic i didn't even see one thread about that here. The business part of this hobby is rarely talk about on this forum, which i think is a really good thing.
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Old 11/19/2007, 01:41 PM
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I believe Proline was bringing in ATI as a master distributor?

Maybe not anymore?
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Old 11/19/2007, 03:18 PM
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I havent heard a thing bad about ATI's business position. In the past, there have been problems, but nothing recent. Perhaps past information is getting recycled?

I know one thing though... US companies need to step up to the plate because pretty soon the conversion rate is goint to make imports from the EU too expensive to even bother with. Those new chinese made Sicce run bubble plate skimmers are aimed directly at ATI's bubblemasters, and look to be a better design at that. So I hope ATI has enough other products in its line to keep afloat (bulbs, and ramping up supply on those powermodules) or its going to be hard to compete.
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Old 11/19/2007, 04:03 PM
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Exactly, there bulb's are still the best par and colors imo, but there skimmers are about to get washed out with the new octo's with the bubble plate's and sicce's. Its going to kill the BM's.
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Old 11/19/2007, 04:09 PM
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did they ever announce a price for the octo extreme?

These EU companies are going to be in big trouble if the dollar keep falling. We already seen some BIG price increase from some of them. H&S and DAS have both had price increase in the last couple of months. H&S was more extreme and now most of their skimmers cost more than deltecs. That sure will push more people into deltec skimmers.
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Old 11/19/2007, 04:11 PM
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No prices yet........and one more thing off the subject....whats up with aquacintics and a 100-200 price increase on an already overpriced solar flare........Not going to recommend them anymore.
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Old 11/19/2007, 04:27 PM
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Well i havnt really seen anything impressive by the octo extremes design wise. Thats just me
Whats so special about them??? I dont get it besides the alledged sicce.
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Old 11/19/2007, 04:42 PM
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Well i havnt really seen anything impressive by the octo extremes design wise. Thats just me
Whats so special about them??? I dont get it besides the alledged sicce.
Very large diameter neck, large diameter body, bubble plate, 22+lpm air, under 30watts.......more than likely in the 300-500dollar range. Whats to question about them?
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Old 11/19/2007, 06:40 PM
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Simply not true

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The following statement is simply not true. There is only one skimmer in the H&S line that is at a higher price point than Deltec.
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H&S was more extreme and now most of their skimmers cost more than deltecs.
Please lmk where you are getting this info? Price increases was on average of 8%, and the only increase in the last 3 years.
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Old 11/19/2007, 09:17 PM
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Where can I get more info about this octo extreme skimmer?
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Old 11/19/2007, 10:34 PM
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Where can I get more info about this octo extreme skimmer?
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1229392
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Old 11/20/2007, 01:05 AM
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I dont see those as such a big deal because its still the same old crappy octo pump. But these... these are a different story...
http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...hp?cPath=22_48

Aimed directly at ATI, and, FWIW, I like the design better as well (no central pipe, no gate valve, etc.)
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