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Old 09/26/2007, 10:48 PM
Doubledown Doubledown is offline
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Info on generators?

Ok, my last thread about the next purchase got me thinking when a generator was suggested.

What size generator do I need? Where is a good place to buy one? Who is a good, quality manufacturer?

I'm a Craftsman Club member at Sears and they have a 3600 watt portable that might do the trick.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...word=generator

Bare minimum to run the 3 tanks return pumps only is about 500 watts. If I don't need the lights I can power my fridge and some house lights with it.
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Old 09/26/2007, 11:00 PM
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Do you have powerheads hooked to a UPS yet? You really need that first if your getting a portable generator. The portable will not hook itself up and turn on at night if you are sleeping.
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Old 09/26/2007, 11:14 PM
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I can tell you I bought a 8000 watt generator at home depot for $1300 during the 3 day power outtage and saved my 125 gallon tank. It completely ran it. The whole reefkeeper 2. Lights, return, pumps. And ofcourse I used it for the fridge and the sump pump too.

-Pumps are #1 as the first thing that kills your fish is lack of oxygen. Lack of water movement for a long period of time is what kills your tank. Bubblers work temporarily but if the power outage is to be more than 24 hours complete circulation is needed.

-Fish can go without lights for several days at a time. Well atleast 2-3 days no problems as long as they've been fed well.

So just add up your returns and pumps and see how much watts you need. Just a tip. You are going to have to keep filling that thing up with more gasoline every 8-12 hours.
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Old 09/26/2007, 11:26 PM
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I would go with a minimum of 5000 watts. Do not be fooled by the surge wattage. A true 5000 watt unit should surge somewhere around 6-6500 watts. That should be plenty to run the tank(s) and some essentials in the house.
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Old 09/27/2007, 06:10 AM
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I am in agreement with Cobra. 5000 watts minimum but if you have the extra $$$ I would go for one in the 8000 watt range.
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Old 09/27/2007, 08:39 AM
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Farm and Fleet has better price’s
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Old 09/27/2007, 09:40 AM
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honda hands down more money but well built of course
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Old 09/27/2007, 09:40 AM
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this is what i just bought
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect....f9de754dc71038

there is a version of this that has propane tanks instead of the Natural gas.
the customer service of this store is great. and no tax..
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Old 09/27/2007, 10:34 AM
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For about 4000 you can get a automatic natural gas generator installed. With this you have peace of mind and a dry basement.
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Old 09/27/2007, 10:37 AM
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SPES that one looks nicer than the Generac ones. you could mistake it for an a/c unit
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Old 09/27/2007, 11:55 AM
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I am not planning to stay in this house for more than 2 years (of course I said that 2 years ago), so I am not sure if a whole house generator is needed. Can those units be moved to a new house when I do?
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Old 09/27/2007, 12:45 PM
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honda hands down more money but well built of course
I have heard this before and agree completely. Don't waste your money on buying anything other than a Honda!
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Old 09/27/2007, 01:01 PM
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Chris,
i have a 6500w version, that will power the whole house.
You can get an electrician to tap into your AC power from outside(240v)....into 2-120v dual outdoor outlets.
Power goes out; turn off main breaker, fire up the generator, plug er into both outlets...wala...full house power and real easy to do.
Granite you do have to home for this to take place.

HTH.

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Old 09/27/2007, 01:03 PM
SlowCobra SlowCobra is offline
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Quote:
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I am not planning to stay in this house for more than 2 years (of course I said that 2 years ago), so I am not sure if a whole house generator is needed. Can those units be moved to a new house when I do?
Yes, they are heavy so a lift of some sort will be required but they are movable.
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Old 09/27/2007, 05:31 PM
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also check costco, i got mine from costco and it has worked out nice!!! I think its like a 12000 peak watt generator or something like that and also came with a honda motor.
I had to bust it out a couple of weeks back all night and it saved my food in the fridge as well as my tank, etc.
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Old 09/27/2007, 09:16 PM
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Anybody know any reputable dealers, electricians, who can install the natural gas powered kind? I am looking at those one of those Guardian rigs.

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Old 09/27/2007, 09:19 PM
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Make a big purchase, go with a standby generator and run your whole house. Your neighbors will hate you. The added bonus is the fact that if you are gone the electric is going to be off for about 30 seconds.
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Old 09/27/2007, 09:24 PM
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Anybody know any reputable dealers, electricians, who can install the natural gas powered kind? I am looking at those one of those Guardian rigs.

R
Their not too hard to hook up yourself if you are at all mechanically inclined. It took me about 8 hours to install it once I had the pad set.
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Old 09/27/2007, 09:42 PM
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Chris - Here's the one I had installed in May that I purchased from Northern Tool. I went with the Natural Gas option. I had my local reefing electrician and plumber do the install on it. You can't go wrong with the automatic transfer switch for when you are not home or can't get home in time to power one up. It saved my basement from flooding when those bad storms hit last month. It also powered my tanks 100% in July for 4 hours when I was on a flight home from California.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...3151_200323151
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Old 09/27/2007, 09:45 PM
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Home Depot also installs the Generacs.
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Old 09/28/2007, 12:07 PM
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Yes, I was looking at Northern Tool. Was not sure how the whole thing would go... sounds like it was pretty smoothly! I will add this to my fall to do list!

Sparcs and gas make me nervous... so I will probably dish this out to the local electrician and plumber. At least until I see how it is done... then... maybe I'll do the next one!

R
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Old 09/28/2007, 08:16 PM
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Well, I have an automatic natural gas generator which was installed by Prospect electric. It covers my aquaria, my pond, my sump, my refrigerators, a couple of lights, and my garage doors. It takes about 10 seconds to kick in but it sure is worth it during longish power outages. Neighbors don't like it when the whole neighborhood is out but my house is still on.
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