My new 600 gallon reef - Page 8

jnarowe · #**176** 09/22/2007, 02:09 PM

Hey Chuck, check out this info. sheet on Collonista sp.. Then take a look at the operculum to see if it has the pit. If it does not, then we can assume that you have one of the many South Pacific Turbo sp. and apparently one that repsorduces in captivity. Either way, these snails may have some value to the DIBS Project.

Regardless of what they are, I would like you to send some to me when you get the chance. If you are up for doing that, PM me and I will make the arrangements.

Goodwin9 · #**177** 09/22/2007, 04:19 PM

Well, I'm not on his best of friends list, but I managed to get him to retract and snap a picture to see what you think...

Goodwin9 · #**178** 09/22/2007, 04:26 PM

COUGARMAN...or anyone else knowledgeable...Need your help in telling me what type of tang this may be. I got him 6 weeks ago and it had a fungus near the top. Fuzzy, cotton ball looking spot. Kept him the the frag tank hoping it would clear up, but never did, until someone looked at it and told me to put him in the chiclid tank for 5 minutes. A few days later, it had cleared up and I finally put him in the new tank. For the life of me I can't remember what it's name is.

Cougarman · #**179** 09/22/2007, 05:04 PM

I think its a common striatus bristletooth.

jnarowe · #**180** 09/22/2007, 07:23 PM

definitely a bristletooth of some sort. And that is a collonista. They will reproduce agressively, but I would say in your system that's probably not a bad thing. I would harvest occassionally and sell or trade them off so that they don't over-populate the tank.

Lunchbucket · #**181** 09/22/2007, 07:28 PM

I like bristle tooth tangs.

Looks a little thin IMO. Hope he fattens up

Lunchbucket

jnarowe · #**182** 09/23/2007, 01:23 AM

especially the ones that eat detritus!

Goodwin9 · #**183** 09/23/2007, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lunchbucket
I like bristle tooth tangs.

Looks a little thin IMO. Hope he fattens up

Lunchbucket

He had been in the frag tank for the last six weeks and there wasn't much for him to pick on. Hopefully he will find a lot more in the big tank to fatten him up a little more.

tangers · #**184** 09/23/2007, 08:18 AM

Looks like a Lavender tang to me -

http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/46162356

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/tangs/lavendertang/

Hope that helps!

Cougarman · #**185** 09/23/2007, 09:11 AM

Quote:

He had been in the frag tank for the last six weeks and there wasn't much for him to pick on. Hopefully he will find a lot more in the big tank to fatten him up a little more.

Unfortunately thats what I see too often with aquarists partial to corals. The tangs are usually strikingly underfed. In the thread posted by Attomik on his 180 gallon, I personally felt his foxface was too skinny. When you can see the bones, its too skinny. The fish are underfed in an attempt to maintain water quality. I say getting a bigger skimmer, doing more water changes and feed ing your fish is a better alternative.

Cougarman · #**186** 09/23/2007, 09:58 AM

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Looks like a Lavender tang to me

I dont think its a lavender tang (Acanthurus nigrofuscus). Its definately not an Acanthurus. The mouth in the picture is of a bristletooth. Be carefull of some websites, they're highly innacurate. That marinecenter website has the scientific name wrong. Ctenochaetus nigrofuscus doesnt exist. The pbase website has the name correct, Acanthurus nigrofuscus, and Goodwin9s fish is definately not an Acanthurus.

tangers · #**187** 09/23/2007, 11:04 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cougarman
[B]I dont think its a lavender tang (Acanthurus nigrofuscus). Its definately not an Acanthurus. The mouth in the picture is of a bristletooth.

could be this one not sure though

http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/58301706

jnarowe · #**188** 09/23/2007, 12:02 PM

You know I have a striped bristletooth and it has a different coloration:

I would bet there are a lot of varients though.

Cougarman · #**189** 09/23/2007, 12:56 PM

jnarowe, yours is a juvenile Twospot Bristletooth (Ctenochaetus binotatus). The key is the two black spots at the base of the anal and dorsal fins.

Tangers I think your right. Goodwin9s looks mostly like a striatus to me.

jnarowe · #**190** 09/23/2007, 01:34 PM

hmmmm...well it was sold to me as a "Blue Eyed Kole" and then I got an ID from a very reputable source who said it is a striped bristletooth... Doesn't really matter I guess, inthe scheme of things, but I sure wish wholesalers and retailers had their act together on proper IDs.

tangers · #**191** 09/23/2007, 03:04 PM

jmarowe- the twospot bristletooth is the same fish as the blue eyed kole, so whoever sold you the fish did id it correctly and you actually got what you intended

jnarowe · #**192** 09/23/2007, 03:18 PM

geez Lueeeze...I couldn't find any fish called a blue eyed kole when I tried to positively ID it. Whatever the case, I like him/her!

Atomikk · #**193** 09/24/2007, 02:39 PM

Cougarman, I find it amusing that you all of a sudden know my fish's health from a few pictures. For your information, I feed twice a day.. once in the morning and once at night, plus the macro algae that I harvest in the tank is eaten daily. My fish are perfectly healthy, thank you for asking.

So next time, I suggest you ask me how I take care of my tank before running off to other forums to make innaccurate assumptions. A simple conversation would have been it.

Dewey58 · #**194** 09/24/2007, 10:04 PM

I know boys will be boys, but lets keep it professional here everyone. Debate is good. Get your point across. It is after all how we all learn. Sift through the knowledge and lets not get personal. I don't think anyone was trying to say your tank was unhealthy, only that the Foxface was a little skinny. I believe your tank looks great. Debate kids...don't get personal.
Thanks for sharing. I for one am learning and I like the idea of being able to say my opinion without getting crapped on.
Thanks,
Dewey

Cougarman · #**195** 09/24/2007, 11:17 PM

Well I guess that answers our question about whether they're still watching this thread. Thanks Dewey58, I couldn't have said it better. Sorry Atomikk I didn't realize you were so sensitive. I'm regularily insulted on AP and I dont take it to heart, its just anothers opinion. I actually enjoy stirring things up a little over there. You 3rd Reich aquarists really take things too seriously. A true man of science should be able to take some healthy criticism and then defend their point of view. If I'm not mistaken, didn't you run off to AP and start a bashing thread about Goodwin9?

http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/sh...hlight=atomikk

Some of the comments were very harsh and uncalled for in my opinion. There has been nothing but healthy debate in this thread (aside from the pages when you were posting). Respect for others opinions and and open minds to others ideas. Thanks guys!

jnarowe · #**196** 09/24/2007, 11:30 PM

Chuck is a magnet for controversy, but I sure love watching his tanks!

Cougarman · #**197** 09/24/2007, 11:34 PM

Ya Chuck why'd you have to go and start all this controversy?

hoover86 · #**198** 09/25/2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cougarman
If I'm not mistaken, didn't you run off to AP and start a bashing thread about Goodwin9?

http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/sh...hlight=atomikk

That's seriously pathetic and a true judge of character. I live in the area and have seen all of these systems and although I'm sure Goodwin9 doesn't consider himself a pro by any means, he obviously seems to know a thing or two to successfully manage all of the systems he has.

Anyway, just couldn't believe how ridiculous that was, on with the good stuff now!!!

NanoReefaholic · #**199** 09/25/2007, 07:36 AM

Do we really need to go back to this? Chuck admitted that he has had problems, to which he hasn't been able to correct. That isn't what I'd consider being able to "successfully manage" a system.

In his defence after all the back patting was through and we "3rd Reich aquarists" chimed in to point out the problems in hopes that they get fixed, they started to be addressed. We care about our wards and that thread was created so we wouldn't have others blindly following Chucks setup without understanding the faults. Many see their livestock as consumable consumer product that can just be replaced if something dies. We however put a high emphasis on the quality of life of the stock that we are responsible for.

We should keep the focus on improving Chucks tank for the sake of his livestock.

Atomikk · #**200** 09/25/2007, 07:51 AM

I will try to stay on topic and not thread crap like some others did.

Sensitive? Unlike you, I view my tank as a living organism that needs constant care. I thrive on creating the best environment that I possibly can for my corals, inverts and fish. I do a ton of research and then apply it onto my tank. I have been through horrendous disasters (some through my own admission, and some not), and I have learned a lot. As a result, I can say that I have an exceptional tank. Many in the GTA have come and viewed it in person. It may not be as glamorous from the outside, but from the inside, its speaks for itself. Maybe you should come down one time and see it yourself (instead of doing things like this on message forums)

So when I give my advise to someone like Chuck, I am trying to educate him so that he doesn't go and do the same things that I have done, or others that I have seen did. A lot of people have too much money in this hobby and treat livestock as replaceable consumables. That is utterly wrong, and should not be in the hobby.