Reeflo/Sequence Skimmer Club - Page 14

cweder · #**326** 09/17/2007, 12:53 PM

How about some pics? I am curious what you guys are getting in 24 hours. Mine has been running 7 days now and I collect about 4 cups of skimmate in 24 hours. I can post a pic if anyone cares.

Jeremy do you think these can run even better albeit louder if we put a larger connector where the tubing attaches to the pump and/or dont use the silencer? The silencer is very effective but more air seems to help the pump run smoother IMO.
The hose attachment at the pump seems smaller than it could be which could be and probably is restricting air flow.

The pump is louder than I expected. My other sequence pumps got considerably quieter over time. Do any of you notice yours getting quieter?

HDAlien · #**327** 09/17/2007, 01:38 PM

I'll post a pic later of my first 24 hours of skimmate. As of this morning at about 36 hours I have about 1" of skimmate all the way around in the cup.

cweder · #**328** 09/17/2007, 02:43 PM

Just to make sure I was clear. My 4 cups per day are not the collection cup, but 4 measuring cups.

HDAlien · #**329** 09/18/2007, 08:19 AM

I'll be emptying my collection cup this afternoon. It is almost full and will overflow overnight if I do not. This will be at about the 72 hour mark since installation.

Jeremy B. · #**330** 09/18/2007, 08:56 AM

If you guys want to get into modding I will tell you what I have found out....

The valve is somewhat restrictive, although not as much as you'd think. I took a drill bit and carefully opened up the inside of the valve. Be cautious when doing this, as you can tear the valve up pretty easily. It's better to use multiple bits and slowly step up in size as you go. Doing this gained me about 200lph.

The next restrictive point is the actual venturi. If you take it off and look at the venturi from the inside point, you can see where the injects into the water. Take another drill bit and open this portion up, or use a dremel.

After doing both of these mods on setup I have going, I gained a total of about 350lph of air. I haven't been able to tell a ton of difference in output of the skimmer though, although there is some.

JRaquatics · #**331** 09/18/2007, 09:00 AM

Jeremy, what's going on with the sequence 200?

benf · #**332** 09/18/2007, 09:09 AM

Jeremy, what pump are u using to feed the skimmer? Also, what distance away would u say your pump is from the skimmer. Lastly, did u have to valve it down. I am still trying to decide if i should change pumps. I have a mag 9.5 appx 8ft away and have it valved down ~40%

GSMguy · #**333** 09/18/2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by JRaquatics
Jeremy, what's going on with the sequence 200?

it looks sweet.

Jeremy B. · #**334** 09/18/2007, 09:50 AM

The prototype I received had the wrong sized venturi with it, so I have not been able to get it hooked up yet. It was one awesome unit though. These skimmers are just unbelieveable to me in how much "bang for the buck" you get with them. The minute I have the 200 set up and running I will post some pics.

benf- Your feed pump sounds just right to me. I would recommend feeding it at a rate of 1.5 to 2x per hour your total water volume, or 400 - 700gph total.

benf · #**335** 09/18/2007, 10:08 AM

The reason i question it, is the fact i have to valve it down so much, and other people are not valving theirs down at all. I was thinking of swapping it out for lesser pump that is why i was wondering which pump u were using.

chopsuey · #**336** 09/18/2007, 10:59 AM

I was wondering if the Sequence 1000 pumps were ok to use in saltwater. I know they have the Reeflo models that are safe but I have the opportunity to pick up a Sequence 1000 for cheap. It was on my neighbors pond they are are tearing out. But if its not recomended for saltwater then I dont want to use it.

RokleM · #**337** 09/18/2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by chopsuey
I was wondering if the Sequence 1000 pumps were ok to use in saltwater. I know they have the Reeflo models that are safe but I have the opportunity to pick up a Sequence 1000 for cheap. It was on my neighbors pond they are are tearing out. But if its not recomended for saltwater then I dont want to use it.

And you're planning on hooking it up to the skimmer (which is what this thread is about)?

chopsuey · #**338** 09/18/2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RokleM
And you're planning on hooking it up to the skimmer (which is what this thread is about)?

Yup, and my question is still the same!

wizsmaster · #**339** 09/18/2007, 01:37 PM

'chopsuey'

Here is the contact info for Reeflo/Sequence, I would contact them directly & make sure the answer comes from the right place.

Toll Free Phone # 877-378-6798 M-F 8am-5pm (Mountain time)
E-mail: Sales@reeflopumps.com
Owners E-Mail: Chris@reeflopumps.com

Jeremy B. · #**340** 09/18/2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chopsuey
I was wondering if the Sequence 1000 pumps were ok to use in saltwater. I know they have the Reeflo models that are safe but I have the opportunity to pick up a Sequence 1000 for cheap. It was on my neighbors pond they are are tearing out. But if its not recomended for saltwater then I dont want to use it.

The 1000 series can be ran in saltwater. The difference between the two is that the 750 and 1000 series standard do not have the upgraded carbon seal in them. The "Reeflo" series all have the upgraded seal in them, which hold up better in our applications where we have a lot of sand & shell moving through our systems.

HDAlien · #**341** 09/18/2007, 04:34 PM

Just emptied the first cup of skimmate off the unit. Measured at 6 cups, and that was at almost exactly the 72 hour mark, I can't wait until it actually breaks in! I consider my tank medium/heavily stocked and 220 gallons for what it's worth.

JRaquatics · #**342** 09/18/2007, 04:43 PM

Jeremy when is production of the 200s going to begin?

chetm2 · #**343** 09/18/2007, 10:45 PM

It looks like china already has a copy of the Reeflo,

http://www.aquaexcel.cn/En_product_v...?ArticleID=157

wizsmaster · #**344** 09/18/2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by chetm2
It looks like china already has a copy of the Reeflo,

http://www.aquaexcel.cn/En_product_v...?ArticleID=157

who said that reeflo was the first to come out with it? Reeflo might have contacted them, or someone else & "private labeled" the skimmer by CNCing reeflo into the top, and putting the sticker on the body.

China is very bad when it comes to respecting designs.

If you go over to china, and have a mold tolled, changes are ... the mold will be offered to your competitor, or anybody else that request a product 'like' yours. Minus the tooling charge of course. lol

chetm2 · #**345** 09/18/2007, 10:57 PM

It uses a different pump, at least from the pictures. But look at the different sizes they offer. Interesting.

wizsmaster · #**346** 09/18/2007, 10:59 PM

Yes, different pump .. 50hz ... most likely cheap chinese pump for picture. also had a union/trist neck of some sort .. as I believe the new reeflo's will have as well.

wizsmaster · #**347** 09/18/2007, 11:06 PM

again, just throwing it out there ... I do not know, and honestly don't care which way it is, but reeflo might just be getting them from these guys, w/out pump, and per their specs.

Look at it .. the new reeflo's are supposed to have a union or twist neck, have metric plumbing, and look just like it .... they have a sticker on the body and customized the top by CNCing/routing the REEFLO into the lid. Since when is Reeflo/Sequence into acrylic fabrication? They have even said these are manufactured in china, and shipped over ..

Again ... why not ... Reeflo build very good pumps, and stands behind their warranty!
I personally doubt that reeflo went through the trouble of doing R&D on designing a skimmer body, then went to china to have molds & tools tooled, to just sell a few skimmers for their pumps.
I'm not saying they didn't, just unlikely to me.

I bought this skimmer knowing that it was manufactured in china, and have no regrets. It works very well, yes, it could use a few options, and design changes .. but I didn't pay $3,000+ for a spazz skimmer.

chetm2 · #**348** 09/18/2007, 11:12 PM

I agree, I'm very happy with mine. It just amazes me how much stuff is out there for the saltwater hobby that we have no clue about.

cweder · #**349** 09/19/2007, 12:38 AM

Jeremy:

I woulk like to try the mod, but need clarification. Sounds like you bore out the cone shaped air valve, but how big did you go? Looks like you can just saw the top off, unless you are talking about something else. On the venturi I guess you have to take that black piece off or leave it on? I would think it would have to be taken apart. Again how big would you go? And of course pics would be awesome if possible. So how many LPH are you getting now, and does this allow you to keep your water level lower?

Jeremy B. · #**350** 09/19/2007, 10:27 AM

I can confirm that Reeflo had the skimmer's built to their specs, however they are not coming from the same manufacturer as what was linked. The manufacturer that is building the Reeflo's also builds another popular skimmer on the market (no, not the Ocotpus if that's what you're thinking), but it is definitely not the one that was linked in the pic. This is the first I have seen anything from the link provided, and I can tell there are a lot of major differences between the Reeflo skimmer(s) and the link provided. Of course the pump used makes a night and day difference, although I would be curious to know the specs on the one in the link.

cweder- The cone shaped air valve is the same diameter inside all the way down, despite the stair stepping down effect on the outside, which is why you just can't cut it shorter to make the hole bigger. I honestly forget how big I went, but I did go quite a bit bigger with it, without getting too close to the sidewall of the valve.

The black venturi needs to be removed from the pump, and placed on a drill press and clamped to do it right and not mess up. If you're good with a dremel you could probably do it with that too. HTH!