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Elite

01/02/2006, 03:08 AM

Show me your setup.. This is how I'm going to set it up on my 29G..

This is what it looks like in the stand. I will remove the back panel and add a 2x4 for support ...
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1158/ss4xp.jpg

I will also reduce the output to 3/4" (maybe 1/2") .... 400GPH out of the 1" pipe won't create enough flow (I think) ..
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/5072/ss13cj.jpg

Another shot
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/5368/ss26gd.jpg

What do you think?? :smokin:

raddogz

01/02/2006, 03:26 AM

What pump will you be using for this? I run a mag 9.5 to the squirt, 3/4" pipe running up from the sump to the tank is approximately four feet. I had a mag 5, and the flow sucked!

Elite

01/02/2006, 03:32 AM

Panworld 50px-x .... Thinking about upgrade to a better pump..

01/03/2006, 02:58 PM

Go Iwaki.
Good pumps

sfsuphysics

01/03/2006, 03:41 PM

I'll use a RIO 20HF on my squirt. Right now with the plumbing I have (sans squirt) it goes up a 4ft rise or so via flex tubing to a 90 that tees off in two directions to a manifold which has 3 output holes and the flow is gentle but not strong. Hopefully with the restriction to one - 1.5 outlets it'll be strong enough to be useful. I can't go much stronger though because of the limitations of the squirt, but I plan to mount the squirt high so it'll have the head restriction already.

dannieboiz

01/03/2006, 04:27 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6413021#post6413021 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ti
Go Iwaki.
Good pumps

Exactly what I did for my SS.... MD 70RTL

Elite

01/03/2006, 04:32 PM

How much you pay for that Dannieboiz?

dannieboiz

01/03/2006, 04:38 PM

If I told you, I'd have to kill you. LOLZ

I paid $160 for it used, from an RC member... haven't plug it in yet but seems to be a good shape beside the usually rust here and there.

It's supposed to be equivalent to the Panworld 200.

Elite

01/03/2006, 04:49 PM

Let me know how much noise that thing make...

Paladin

01/03/2006, 05:59 PM

I've had the Iwaki 70MD RLT and have the Panworld 50px-x, and the Iwaki is definitely louder. It sounded like a dishwasher to me. But then you're comparing two different models where the Iwaki is pumping out more water, so it will be louder.

dannieboiz

01/03/2006, 06:04 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6414624#post6414624 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Paladin
I've had the Iwaki 70MD RLT and have the Panworld 50px-x, and the Iwaki is definitely louder. It sounded like a dishwasher to me. But then you're comparing two different models where the Iwaki is pumping out more water, so it will be louder.

louder but is it bearable? Beside the noise... any other complaints about it?

Elite

01/03/2006, 06:24 PM

I don't know if I can stand the dishwasher noise all day long :D ... after you set it up, let me know.... I run over to see how much noise that thing makes :p ...

Paladin

01/03/2006, 06:28 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6414659#post6414659 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dannieboiz
louder but is it bearable? Beside the noise... any other complaints about it?
Yeah, it was bearable for me. I had it in the kitchen area, so when I was in the living room watching TV, it wasn't too bad. Besides that, you can't go wrong with the quality and dependability of an Iwaki.

dannieboiz

01/03/2006, 06:29 PM

No problem man.... maybe on weekend u can come over to help me transfer things? LOLZ

Maybe we all can go to Paladin to check out his pump so we both can decide if you(buy) me(hook up) the iwaki or not.:lol: :lol:

nc35

01/03/2006, 06:36 PM

I have a regular squirt paired up with a QuitOne 4000. The noise from the pump is undetectable, but with a closed loop and powerful pump you'll introduce alot of micro bubbles. I can hear the air being sucked in hitting the pump and eventually micro bubbles in the tank. My recommendation when setting up a closed loop is to make sure everything is air tight or else you'll see micro-bubbles.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/13436closedloop.JPG

dannieboiz

01/03/2006, 06:38 PM

good to know NC35... but looking at your picture make my neck ache. LOLZ....

How do you know everything is air tight? if it's not air tight, wouldn't things be leaking.

Paladin

01/03/2006, 06:40 PM

I don't have the Iwaki anymore since I downsized to a 29g and using the Panworld pump. But I'm sure it'll give you some good flow...but you can check out the Panworld if you want to.

nc35

01/03/2006, 07:12 PM

Sorry about the pic...everytime i rotate the pic it distorts the pic.

My air leaks are from the intake side (before the pump). The intake side leaks will pull the water and air into the system vesus the outlet side (after the pump) will show water leakage. OM recommended me to run the closed loop with the the outlet completely closed and this will put more pressure on the pipes and thus show you where the air leaks are.

I suspect my air leakage is from the QuitOne pump. They have two interchangeable fittings if you want to run dry versus run wet. These fittings aren't screwed on tight like a Iwaki, Mag and Pan.

sfsuphysics

01/03/2006, 08:13 PM

Here's the pic rotated
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1583/13436closedloop26qf.jpg

dannieboiz

01/04/2006, 03:54 AM

Here you go, just finished a few minutes ago (http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=742688)

Getting blisters from cutting these pipes.... paul is recommending me to put 2 of the return as low as possible..... I think I'll move 2 of the center returns to the back and then lower it 8" down from the back corners.

wjhuie

01/04/2006, 04:24 AM

The om's are so cool

dannieboiz

01/04/2006, 04:26 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6418563#post6418563 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wjhuie
The om's are so cool

We know...:rolleye1: I almost fell asleep. Make me wake up to tell me something I already know is a no no. :uzi: :eek:

:mixed: g'nite :)

Vincerama2

01/06/2006, 06:04 PM

Er, I SURE HOPE that you bought a pair of PVC cutters and didn't cut the PVC with a hacksaw! Why? PVC cutters will make a straight cut that doesn't need deburring in about 2 seconds. A hacksaw takes like 30 seconds to cut and causes lots of blisters!

Hey, does anyone know the difference between the squirts, the super squirts and the 2 and 4 way squirts?

I ordered a 2 way squirt and it appears to be a 4 way squirt, but hey included two plugs to plug up two of the outlets. Almost the same price. In fact the 2 way was a buck or two MORE than the 4 way...the price of the pvc plugs?

V

zivic2play

01/06/2006, 06:22 PM

Yep, that's the only difference I think.

sfsuphysics

01/06/2006, 06:54 PM

V:

Basically super squirt and squirt are about the same, the magnets are more powerful (or more of them) in the super squirt as a result it allows more flow without restriction. Also the super squirt has 1" outlets the squirt only 3/4"

The 2way squirt is the same parts as the squirt, it might have a different cut "dohicky" inside that's slightly bigger to account for the lack of two other outlets.

sid700

01/06/2006, 07:02 PM

<i>from Vincerama</i>
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I ordered a 2 way squirt and it appears to be a 4 way squirt, but hey included two plugs to plug up two of the outlets. Almost the same price. In fact the 2 way was a buck or two MORE than the 4 way...the price of the pvc plugs?
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The rotating thing-of-a-the-jig inside the Squirt housing has been modified.

A normal Squirt always has an adjacent port partially open - which enables water to flow through the unit at all times.

The 2-way only has two ports so the thing-of-a-jig is modified so that water can still flow continously through the unit even though it only has TWO ports.

You can check this out by rotating the thing-of-a-jig and looking through the ports. You'll see that even if you plug up two of the ports, the water will still flow through the unit.

Vincerama2

01/06/2006, 07:35 PM

Ah, thanks guys!

I missed the group buy on them, but still got the discount. I had to pay shipping though. That's the part that stings the most because I was in Mississauga, Ont for 2 weeks visiting my parents....and that's where Ocean Motions is...I could have brought all the units back for free in my luggage!

I think I'm gonna plumb mine with vinyl hose and hose barbs, rather than PVC I think, jsut becuase I have my SCWD in there now and I want to see if I can just SWAP OUT the scwd with the 2 way squirt. The only problem I had with the SCWD was the flow reduction (why pay for a decent flowing pump just to rob it of flow?) and the fact that it just plumb stopped working and is now a flow-restricted T connector!! ;)

I think OSH has 3/4" FPT to hose barb connectors...

V