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Old 09/20/2005, 03:25 PM
pashkualc pashkualc is offline
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Question nitratreductor

Hi Randy,
DeNitrification on sulphur this aerobic or anaerobic process, or can chemical
ask if possible write formulas a reaction
why when start denitrificator i have a large contents nitrite and pH first drops to 6 but afterwards rises before 7.5
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Old 09/20/2005, 04:57 PM
Randy Holmes-Farley Randy Holmes-Farley is offline
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The oxidation of sulfur with nitrate requires no O2, but I do not know if it is necessary that there be low O2 levels or not.

I have shown the chemical reactions behind many nitrate reduction processes in this article:

Nitrate in the Reef Aquarium
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...t2003/chem.htm
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Old 09/21/2005, 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by Randy Holmes-Farley
The oxidation of sulfur with nitrate requires no O2, but I do not know if it is necessary that there be low O2 levels or not.
Randy, i think low O2 in this process is dangerous. Because due low O2 (low ORP) system can come into anaerobic state and it is possible to make H2S gas from SO4--.

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Old 09/21/2005, 02:15 PM
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biological or chemical

2 H2O + 5 S + 6 NO3- = 3 N2 + 5 SO4-- + 4 H+
in article is brought general formula, but incomprehensibly whence nitrates. they intermediate section or as?

and as process biological or chemical?

beside me too high velocities to denitrifications, there is suspicion on chemical nature of the process

thank you for answers
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Old 09/21/2005, 02:16 PM
Randy Holmes-Farley Randy Holmes-Farley is offline
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My understanding is that the process is biologically mediated.

I didn't understand the first comment.
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Old 09/21/2005, 02:28 PM
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I am sorry
incomprehensibly
whence nitrites?
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Old 09/21/2005, 02:49 PM
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The same process might possibly produce nitrite in addition to N2, but I do not know if that actually happens to an important extent in real reactors.
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Old 09/21/2005, 03:53 PM
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A lot of nitrite can be generated, at least initially.

Use of NO3 as an oxygen donor is far more energetically favorable than that of NO2. So if sufficient nitrate is present no NO2 is transformed to N2.

Although there are tales of bacteria specifically transforming NO2 to N2.


Production of sulfide only takes place if there ais no longer any nitrate or nitrite present but certain organics are present.


FWIW, the curator of a large public aquarium had their sulfur media assayed (RNA) and no sulfur bacteria were found.

Their sulfur reactor produced initially primarily nitrite and later on the effluent was very low in both nitrite and nitrate.
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Old 09/22/2005, 07:39 AM
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Very interesting. Thanks, Habib.

So they assayed specifically for sulfur bacteria by RNA? Do you know what the RNA they looked for coded for? Perhaps it is a gene missing in the strains that happened to be there in their case?
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