I Need Help Quick!!!! Plz!!!!!

Phiche Master · #1 12/21/2004, 07:53 PM

All tank parameters are 0's, so says my test kits & verified with the LFS, but my salinity is 1.028....my little bobbing hygrometer had miss led me. The problem is that all my LPS are retracting into their skeleton, and my some of my zoos are not opening. THe LPS have been retracting for about 2 weeks with deaths to several frogspawn heads and a scolymia, the zoos (that arent opening) have been that way for 3 days. Is it the salinity or could it be my DSB? PLZ HELP.....lowering salinity as I write this.

reefkeeper02 · #2 12/21/2004, 08:12 PM

have you added anything to your tank recently? Anything die?

LOTUS50GOD · #3 12/21/2004, 08:20 PM

yup.. salinity ... how big is your tank.... slowly drop your salinty to 1.023

Phiche Master · #4 12/21/2004, 11:28 PM

its the system in my description 50g w/ like 65 lbs LR haldie is over the 10 and 29 w/ the 10 underneath. Added zoos like a month and a half ago, but thats pretty common, am always adding zoos....the ones that arent opening are eagle eyes. RO/DI en route. Thanks for the quick response

0racle · #5 12/21/2004, 11:35 PM

All those deaths from high salinity???

Sounds Phichey.

Phiche Master · #6 12/22/2004, 12:45 AM

Thats what I thought........., but the only thing I can think is that, I have read that DSBs can leach phosphates, but my water has repeatedly tested perfect....temp is fine, right at 80 day and night...I thought mb since the right salinity makes the proper ph that mb too much salinity could be too much ph, but the test kits say its ok. Dunno what it could be.....but most of the lps are retracting into their skeletons, but not all ie: candy canes are happy as can be, but frogspawn is dying, pink bubble is good whereas the green is retracting, geoffroyi is good, radiata is bad. Same with the zoos some are very happy some are very mad.

0racle · #7 12/22/2004, 12:50 AM

Gosh....

Try a different test kit for all parameters IF YOU CAN.

I've had similar things happen,some doing good, others not so.

Make sure first.how old is your DSB?

Gawain1974 · #8 12/22/2004, 12:54 AM

I'd lower the salinity very slowly...you don't want to shock anything. Have you noticed any signs of bacterial disease (i.e. brown jelly) in your LPS that could have let to their demise? I was losing a frogspawn and all tests checked out, and upon closer inspection, I had the dreaded brown jelly. Good luck.

romunov · #9 12/22/2004, 03:58 AM

I would keep it around 1,025ish. +-0,001.

Phiche Master · #10 12/22/2004, 02:48 PM

1 st the dsb is about 1.5 years old, and 2nd the lps have shrank (almost no polyps extention at all) they after say a week of that they started rotting, the rot was generally brown in color, but I had a gonipora that got brown jelly about 2 weeks after I got it and with it a couple days was dead(long time ago) this doesnt seem like the same thing(suppose it could be)cuz the jelly was stringy in the current and would attack suroundung corals....it actually grabbed onto some butto poylps, but I cut off their heads and they were fine. Most of the LPS (not the frogspawn, the torch right next to it{not touching}) look happy during the day, but about 2 hours b4 lights out they retract, since they are so closely related this makes me wonder about the brown jelly. O and I didnt trust my test kits, so I took my water to a LFS for verification....in addition to the dozen times I ve tested it.....all is well. The little paper in my hygrometer musta been jarred from is proper location cuz it was reading 1.024, but at the LFS it was 1.028....so I dunno how long my babies have been subjected to this. Got me to thinking....mb my thermometer is messed up to? but Ive have a heater malfunction b4 and the shrooms were the first to go, then the frogspawn, my shrooms are happy as can be though...all the time. Am stumped still lowering the salinity, with no improvement.

Phiche Master · #11 12/22/2004, 03:06 PM

O yea....I tested for EVERYTHING alk, cal, phos, nitra, nitri, amm, ph, tested my ro/di for tds, tested the water for salinity too, lota good that did me.

TealCobra · #12 12/22/2004, 03:20 PM

There is no reason to lower your SG to 1.023. Reef tanks are generally kept between 1.025-1.026.

Phiche Master · #13 12/23/2004, 01:20 PM

I got it down to 24/25 with no improvement, but when I tested the test b4 the lights came on today it was 76.....then I looked at my heater and there was a snail on the temp adjuster!!!!! I am wondering if the snail has been messing with my heater!!!!! its got a big knob that is easy to turn unlike most heaters, and it wasnt on when I tested the temp at 76....I think I found out whats wrong.....all snails have been ejected from the sump.....thats just crazy. But was at 80 b4 the lights came on last week when I tested, so he might have just done it once<---totally beat down by my reef