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Old 12/29/2007, 03:44 PM
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Lowering Alk

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I would like to ask what would be the best way to lower my Alk on my newly mixed salt water. I just tested it and it's 12dkh. Need to bring it down to about 8 or so.

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Old 12/29/2007, 06:22 PM
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12dkh is still within normal range, it's the upper limit. Stop dosing buffer until alk goes down. Alk of 9-10 is a good range.
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Old 12/29/2007, 08:15 PM
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What brand of salt is being used? How is SG being tested, and how was the device calibrated?
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Old 12/29/2007, 10:24 PM
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Tropic Marin Pro. Refractometer calibrated with RO.
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Old 12/29/2007, 11:20 PM
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I'd try calibrating with some of the PinPoint 53 mS solution. Calibration with RO/DI water can be very inaccurate:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-12/rhf/index.php

I think that result might be reasonable for that salt product, though. I'm not sure.
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Old 12/30/2007, 12:05 AM
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Ok thanks bertoni... will do. I'm just trying to lower a bit my Alk. My tank runs about 8-9 dkh. My newly mixed water reads 12... so just want it to bring it closer.
I've read about using sparkling water to lower your Alk and so I tried it. But it seems that you need to dose quite a bit of it to bring it down. I put one liter into about 40 gal. of salt water and the Alk still about the same.
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Old 12/30/2007, 12:44 AM
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Sparkling water won't lower the alkalinity. It just reduces pH temporarily. A mineral acid can lower the alkalinity, but they are a bit dangerous.
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Old 12/30/2007, 03:31 AM
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Agreed, just stop dosing whatever you're dosing for alkalinity and wait a couple of days. It should drop on its own due to calcification.
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Old 12/30/2007, 04:12 AM
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Many salt mixes like IO, RC and others make their salt mix that high on purpose.

Let's say your tank is at 9 dkh. You do a 25 % water change with a mix containing 12 dkh.

You will see very little difference in the rise in dkh in the main tank.

Conversely, if your tanks dkh is 9 and you keep doing water changes with water that is 9, you will continually have to add an alkalinity supplement to maintain your levels.

Instant Ocean @ 1.0264 runs about 12-13 dkh and no one seems to be having any problems with high alkalinity.
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Old 12/30/2007, 08:58 AM
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Ok. Thank you all for your comments. Very helpful!

Billybeau1: It looks like I may be worrying too much. I agree, I guess a partial water change would not cause a significant rise in my Alk. At least not enough to stress the animals.

Thank you all
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Old 12/30/2007, 12:38 PM
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