Lets see those Rare Clows

FishAreFriends2 · #1 12/06/2007, 07:58 PM

I would like to see some Rare Clowns, so post them

95accord · #2 12/06/2007, 08:53 PM

not realy rare....but cool non the less

traveller7 · #3 12/06/2007, 08:53 PM

Sorry, mine are shy ;>)

phender · #4 12/06/2007, 09:09 PM

Define rare.
Rare in nature? Very few clowns are actually rare in their natural range. Leucokranos and thiellei are rare in nature because they are likely hybrids.

Rare in the trade? Species like nigripes, tricinctus and chrysopterus are not rare in nature, but they are in a PITA for wholesalers and retailers because they ship so poorly, so they aren't available very often.

Rare because they have unusual patterns? Picasso, naked and snowflake clowns are clowns with unusual patterns of very common species.

Rare because they live in protected or isolated areas so they can't be easily collected and/or transported? Mccullochi, omanensis and fuscocaudatus live in protected waters. Chrystogasters live around a few remote islands.

You might get better results if you make a list of the species you would like to see. You might consider a true sebae clown or a bicinctus to be quite rare, while I see them quite often.

blface · #5 12/06/2007, 09:56 PM

Ask and thee shall receive.

Amphiprion thiellei

Tyler.L · #6 12/07/2007, 12:25 AM

wow thats just soooo sick. first time ever seeing the thiellei, i've seen the leucokranos pics before but never the thiellei and now i definatly want one.

happyface888 · #7 12/07/2007, 12:28 AM

is the little fella paired? and how much do they go for?

blface · #8 12/07/2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by happyface888
is the little fella paired? and how much do they go for?

I wish I could find another one to pair him up with. As far as price I have no idea I've never seen another one. I can't even find but only a few pics of another.

ReefDent · #9 12/07/2007, 06:09 PM

95accord · #10 12/07/2007, 06:52 PM

^^ I like....very nice.

Mirror Pond · #11 12/07/2007, 07:21 PM

My new A. nigripes.

FishAreFriends2 · #12 12/07/2007, 07:29 PM

Wow those are really nice,

Bones18 · #13 12/07/2007, 08:19 PM

A. nigripes. are one of my favorites! I need to find me a pair

happyface888 · #14 12/08/2007, 01:55 AM

I havent seen these ever at fish stores.

Slakker · #15 12/08/2007, 02:04 AM

Ganked from google:

A. McCullochi. It appears to be from a japanese blog...I don't read japanese, but these two appear to be captive. Perhaps there is yet hope to see these in the trade someday soon...

reefman13 · #16 12/08/2007, 09:18 AM

Slakker, those are some pretty cool clowns, I have never seen anything like them before. Def. something that we will hopefully start to see being brought into the US.

criccio · #17 12/08/2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Slakker
Ganked from google:

A. McCullochi. It appears to be from a japanese blog...I don't read japanese, but these two appear to be captive. Perhaps there is yet hope to see these in the trade someday soon...

I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing these soon. There is an AU breeder (and former RC member mrblue) breeding and raising them.

traveller7 · #18 12/08/2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by criccio
I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing these soon. There is an AU breeder (and former RC member mrblue) breeding and raising them.

Given the prices paid in Japan, he would be silly to send them to the US at the early stages.

Not that I would mind having a pair of course ;>)

Jovreefer · #19 12/08/2007, 11:08 AM

Is he breeding them now? I remember he got a permit to collect 10 pairs but I have not seen anything in forever about them

criccio · #20 12/08/2007, 11:27 AM

Maybe soon was to optimistic Scott, although in the world of acquiring mc's soon could mean, oh maybe five yrs

. I'm sure there's a few of us crazy clown folk that would pay a decent price for them, so hopefully they'll make their way over within a year or so.

Yes Jov, he is breeding them. He has a nice thread on another forum with fry pics. I believe he collected four spawning pairs when he went out.

traveller7 · #21 12/08/2007, 12:03 PM

No doubt Chris, no doubt. There are a few of us willing to go long on the dollar and be patient.

One thing in our favor, market saturation for a larger clown specimen, which does not look like a classic clown, is going to occur pretty quickly. A good breeder alone can drop the price substantially, i.e. $10K/pr to $1K/pr very quickly with a minimal supply.

IMHO, it would be a wise business decision to sell to the higher areas first and invest in more growout capabilities to sustain the broodstock diversity.

criccio · #22 12/08/2007, 12:12 PM

I agree Scott, it seemed to happen with the rush of latz that came in this past year. Once the core group got their fill, there seemed to be some latz that lasted weeks if not months at vendors/lfs because the everyday hobbiest wasn't going to pay the going rate for what I've heard described as a "boring brown clownfish".

phender · #23 12/08/2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by criccio
..........there seemed to be some latz that lasted weeks if not months at vendors/lfs because the everyday hobbiest wasn't going to pay the going rate for what I've heard described as a "boring brown clownfish".

Yeah and just imagine what they will think of a not quite black clownfish with a blurred white head stripe. I think it will be a get in high and then get out market.

criccio · #24 12/08/2007, 07:45 PM

Just going back and reading some old posts by mrblue, he states that the US wholesalers wouldn't touch what the Japanese would pay, so who knows if/when we will see them. Maybe we should pool are resources and get a wc pair to a competent breeder here in the US.

traveller7 · #25 12/08/2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by criccio
Maybe we should pool are resources and get a wc pair to a competent breeder here in the US.

Well you just took me out of the hunt

They all breed over here, but don't ask me to raise the lil'buggers