Ati bubblemaster look alike hitting the market

N-A-S-O · #1 12/01/2007, 05:22 PM

Has anyone heard about these new skimmers? Are the sicce pumps any good?

http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...acturers_id=28

3.99AfterTaxes · #2 12/01/2007, 05:27 PM

Same pumps as the ones found on the BM.

GSMguy · #3 12/01/2007, 05:34 PM

I think they look nicer than the ATI look how tall they are and the pump being under the skimmer helps keep the footprint small.

sjm817 · #4 12/01/2007, 08:01 PM

For comparison

USC-fan · #5 12/01/2007, 10:10 PM

these skimmer are going to sell great if they stay at this price and there is not any flaws in the design. I can't wait for the first reviews.

ReefWreak · #6 12/01/2007, 10:26 PM

I'm waiting for the reviews too. I saw this last night and spent hours looking around on the net for this new series of octopus extreme or w/e it was. I'm excited. It might be time to replace my ER 8-2 if these things have a 10" chamber and are recirc for <$500. Gonna be sick. I can't wait.

reef_doug · #7 12/02/2007, 01:30 AM

I have the BM250 and don't really care for their "newer gate valve". I really like the output design of these Xtreme where I can deflect the output to the next chamber in my skimmer.

Tunze uses Sicci pumps in their 6000-6200 series streams. BM uses Sicci pumps with a meshwheel for their U.S. version skimmer, (maybe the exact same pump in these Extreme skimmers).

stressed damsel · #8 12/02/2007, 02:12 AM

cant wait for reviews. for the price this might be the next great skimmer out there.

hahnmeister · #9 12/02/2007, 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by N-A-S-O
Has anyone heard about these new skimmers? Are the sicce pumps any good?

http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...acturers_id=28

Yes, we have been talking about them over in this thread for some time now....
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...5&pagenumber=1

The body is based more on the BK deluxe (a good thing) than the ATI, with the Sicce pump. Not exactly quality, but bang for the buck... hard to beat.

hahnmeister · #10 12/02/2007, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by reef_doug
I have the BM250 and don't really care for their "newer gate valve". I really like the output design of these Xtreme where I can deflect the output to the next chamber in my skimmer.

Tunze uses Sicci pumps in their 6000-6200 series streams. BM uses Sicci pumps with a meshwheel for their U.S. version skimmer, (maybe the exact same pump in these Extreme skimmers).

Im pretty sure ALL tunze pumps are Sicce made. The PSK 2500 that this skimmer uses is what ATI uses on the BM's, and what Tunze uses as the 'hydrofoamer' pump on its 'Master DOC' series of skimmers.

nava405 · #11 12/02/2007, 04:22 AM

guess what? i think it'll work alot better than ATI since it doesn't have the small 6" tube inside the body...

luke33 · #12 12/02/2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by nava405
guess what? i think it'll work alot better than ATI since it doesn't have the small 6" tube inside the body...

Sure will. If you check out the coralvue extreme octo's, they are more similar to the ati with the tube inside teh tube type deal, which i think it a total waste of space. Aquariumspecialy has been selling these for a couple weeks now.

sjm817 · #13 12/02/2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by reef_doug
I have the BM250 and don't really care for their "newer gate valve". I really like the output design of these Xtreme where I can deflect the output to the next chamber in my skimmer.

I agree. The BM250 I have has a normal style output that I can direct wherever I want. The new design is a step backwards. The new ATB cone skimmers also have this design which is a shame.

albfelix · #14 12/02/2007, 05:08 PM

Just do a search on the For Sale Forum for ATI and look how many results you will see taking in considearation how long these skimmers have been on the market and do the judgement yourself.

just my 2 cents

sfsuphysics · #15 12/02/2007, 05:15 PM

Looking at the pictures of the above link it seems like none of them are recirculating skimmers. Unless I'm missing a place where there's a hole cut to pull into the pumps intake.

And it appears that only the 160 model has the underneath pump design.

GSMguy · #16 12/02/2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by albfelix
Just do a search on the For Sale Forum for ATI and look how many results you will see taking in considearation how long these skimmers have been on the market and do the judgement yourself.

just my 2 cents

can you repeat that in a way that is not a riddle?

GSMguy · #17 12/02/2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by sfsuphysics
Looking at the pictures of the above link it seems like none of them are recirculating skimmers. Unless I'm missing a place where there's a hole cut to pull into the pumps intake.

And it appears that only the 160 model has the underneath pump design.

most of the sicce Mass produced skimmers are not RC the ATI are not RC the Tunze is not RC and neither are these

sjm817 · #18 12/02/2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by albfelix
Just do a search on the For Sale Forum for ATI and look how many results you will see taking in considearation how long these skimmers have been on the market and do the judgement yourself.

just my 2 cents

I searched and in the last 3 months I found 5. One of which the poster changed his mind and is keeping it.

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1235770

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Nothing wrong with this skimmer, it is the best I have ever owned.

...and then he cancelled the for sale post

You got this guy that had a 160 for sale and sold it 4 days.
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1247757

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I got an H&4 A150 external so I can use the space where my skimmer was as a refugium.

He also is selling a 200 for a friend..
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1247757

Here is another 200:
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1249687

Another 200:
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1230035

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works great. just need a bigger skimmer

I dont see anything at all unusual. What is your point?

GSMguy · #19 12/02/2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by sjm817
I searched and in the last 3 months I found 5. One of which the poster changed his mind and is keeping it.

with that info I can solve the riddle, ATI BM owners like their skimmers and do not get rid of them often.

What do i win

Creetin · #20 12/02/2007, 07:41 PM

Sjm i dont see it either, Looks like people just like to knock down ATI to prove that thier SWC is better.
Anywho good luck with your SWC's

GSMguy · #21 12/02/2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Creetin
Sjm i dont see it either, Looks like people just like to knock down ATI to prove that thier SWC is better.
Anywho good luck with your SWC's

what is a SWC?

albfelix · #22 12/02/2007, 07:51 PM

my point is that they are built cheap with cheap pumps.

sjm817 · #23 12/02/2007, 07:55 PM

That's nice if you think that, but it makes no sense, has nothing to do with how well they skim or anything at all to do with the few units being sold, or owners satisfaction.

So, whats your point? Do you prefer the build quality of SWC? Do you like their pumps better?

GSMguy · #24 12/02/2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by albfelix
my point is that they are built cheap with cheap pumps.

many people love the pumps.... they are not overpriced if thats what your looking for.

as for built cheap, yep they are, luckily most people don't kick their skimmers around too much.

luke33 · #25 12/02/2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by albfelix
my point is that they are built cheap with cheap pumps.

So you are saying the pump's on the ati's are nice but the pump's on these SWC's are cheap.....Yea, that makes alot of sense! Since, you know, there the same exact pump

And i've never seen an octo that was built cheap, there pretty darn sturdy. And like mentioned above, unless you like dropping it alot i wouldn't worry to much.