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Old 11/14/2007, 01:26 PM
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Talking SPS Shallow Reef Tank Build Thread

Hey guys,

Well, after being absent from the hobby for about a year and a half..i decided it was enough! I couldnt stay away any longer..I love this hobby way too much and it was time to get back on things.

So i sat down with paper and pencil and designed this set up. Its a 30x30x15 Rimless tank; very shallow. Here are the specs:

-30x30x15 (58 gal. roughly)
-Custom made sump w/ refugium
-Sequence Snapper as a return

Lightning
-2x250w Aqua Medic Ocean Lights (Im still deciding which bulb to use).

Flow
-One Tunze 6055 w/ single controller
-Oceans Motions nozzles to direct the flow from the 2 return bulkeheads.

Filtration
-Tunze COMLINE DOC skimmer 9005
-Im going to use Dr.Mac Tonga-Nuku Fusion rock (love the shapes)

Misc.
-Custom made Ca. Reactor
-Reef Keeper 2 Aquacontroller

This setup is going to have minimal fish:

-2 Regal tangs (Paracanthurus hepatus)
-2 Onyx clowns from Rods-reef.com
-Green Mandarin Goby (Synchiropus splendidus)...WAYYY down the line

-Pair of harlequin shrimp (Hymenocera picta)

And its going to be full blown SPS, zoas..etc..

My tank will be ready Dec. 8th...so right now im getting everything together as long as the stand custom made. I will post pictures when i get the tank. Right now, i can only post pics of the equipment.

Enjoy,

ClownReef




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Old 11/14/2007, 01:41 PM
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Im joining in on this one early!

ClownReef,
Hey great start, I am nearly in the indentical position. I have been out of the hobby roughly about a year, and I am heading back. I too have a custom rimless tank 30X30x17, starphire. I am in the process of building, cooking rocks ( my old dried out rocks plus some new LR) I can't wait to see your build, to see what i can learn, glean from someone else's process. I got my tank for the same reasons to start a very shallor reef crest.


best of luck
David
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Old 11/14/2007, 02:25 PM
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David,

Thanks!

We're pretty excited..It should be a VERY nice project..
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Old 11/14/2007, 02:30 PM
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Looks great...only thing I could recommend is returning the 9005 for a 9010. Its only slightly more, and can handle a lot more bioload.
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Old 11/14/2007, 02:57 PM
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Looks great...only thing I could recommend is returning the 9005 for a 9010. Its only slightly more, and can handle a lot more bioload.
I dont see why.. My tank is only 58 gal. and the 9005 can do up to 132 gal. The 9010 does exactly the double..a slight over kill..
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Old 11/14/2007, 03:00 PM
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i agree the 9010 would be better for you. "Up to 132 gals" doesnt mean it keeps the tank clean at 132 gals.
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Old 11/14/2007, 03:04 PM
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I never let my tank go without a water change for more than 2 weeks..so i think the 9005 can do the job. Thanks for the suggestions though
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Old 11/14/2007, 03:05 PM
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I would agree with upgrading to the 9010. I think Roger says cut the "up to xxxgals" in half for SPS tanks.
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Old 11/14/2007, 03:10 PM
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I would agree with upgrading to the 9010. I think Roger says cut the "up to xxxgals" in half for SPS tanks.
I guess if the half rule is true..132/2 is 66..My tank is 58 ...i suppose i cleared it.
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Talking clownreef

Their steering you in the right direction, I had my 9015 on my 55 and it doo a good job, but its not that powerful of a skimmer, but thats precisely why I love it, its a little more friendly to plankton then some others. I however am running a dual skimming setup 9010, and the 9015 on my 70g. Call it overkill, but if one is dialed in wet and the other is dry, I see it as win win.

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Old 11/14/2007, 05:23 PM
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the 9010 is not a great skimmer. just my 2 cents. spend your money on something more afforable and is more effective
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Old 11/14/2007, 05:53 PM
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Im gonna try my 9005 see how it works. If i see its not keeping up..i will rethink my strategy..

About live rock.. Should i go with Dr. Mac's Tonga/Nuku Fusion rock? or try something different for the type of aquascape i want to try..
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Old 11/14/2007, 06:03 PM
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i see you already have the lights, but that size tank is perfect for one lumenarc reflector, you could go with one 400 or one 250 and have great lighting.
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Old 11/14/2007, 06:14 PM
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TWON,

Well, these Aqua Medic lights are soooooo wickedly sexy..its unreal.. and the light they put out..it really impressed me!
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Old 11/14/2007, 08:59 PM
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ok..rock anybody? ideas..input?
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Old 11/14/2007, 09:11 PM
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I guess if the half rule is true..132/2 is 66..My tank is 58 ...i suppose i cleared it.
Here is Tunze's official rating system. IMO you fall into the SPS plus heavy bioload - 2 tangs in a 58 G is A LOT (I'll refrain from calling the tang police, but there are some that will say no tang belongs in a tank your size, I think 1 at least would be OK if you do an open aquascape). Given that its only 40% of 132 (ie reduce by 60), which is about 53g. No reason not to return the 9005 and get a 9010...plan now and save money in the long run. I know from experience, now on my second skimmer.

COMLINE DOC Skimmer
The Comline DOC Skimmer with hydrofoamer has an open water circuit which can be controlled. Apart from the air output, the flow rate of the skimmer determines the output of the DOC skimmer. In addition, due to its biotope composition, every marine aquarium has a different sensitivity with respect to the organic load. Based on a standard marine aquarium with soft corals, the data on the suitable skimmer size may differ in other biotopes. For this reason, the aquarium volumes remommended for the skimmer should be reduced in case of sensitive biotopes.

Low Sensitivity
In soft coral aquariums with long-polyp corals and anemones, for example, the share in dissolved organic matter may be higher, sometimes it may even be vital. In this type of aquarium, the recommended aquarium volume can be used without deduction.

Medium Sensitivity
A medium organic stability is usually found in mixed aquaiums inhabited with soft and stone corals (LPS). Filter-feeding animals. sponges, et cetera, are found there frequently well. For these aquariums, a reduction of about 20% of the skimming capacity is calculated. A skimmer for 1000 liters (264 gallons) should thus be used for an aquarium about 800 liters (211 gallons) which has this kind of reef design.

High Sensitivity
Aquariums with primarily small-polyp stony corals (SPS) require an especially high degree of purity. They should have no load of phosphates or nitrates worth mentioning. Good oxygen saturation and very clear water are the pre-requisites. Comline DOC skimmer is also ofter used as a "stand-alone" solution in these aquariums. This type of aquarium should be reduced by about 40% in the volume of the skimmer volume mentioned.

High Sensitivity and High Load
Hard coral aquariums with a high population of fish require an extremely high skimming capacity. The skimmer has to ensure the degree of purity for the hard corals are at an above average high fish load. if the Comline DOC skimmer has to operate as a "stand-alone" solution here, a high-performance is required. This type of aquarium should be reduced by up to 60% in volume of the skimmer volume mentioned.
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Old 11/14/2007, 10:16 PM
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ok..rock anybody? ideas..input?
Really though..anybody?
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Old 11/14/2007, 11:12 PM
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can't wait to your tank. I just set up my 72gal 30x30x18 I love it the 30x30 is great. click my little red house to see my tank. I use a tunze nano 6055 w/controller good flow but I want to get 1 6025 I think it will be perfect with that.
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I'm sorry not the little red house my gallery.
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Old 11/15/2007, 01:43 AM
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I also have a 30x30x18, love the dimensions, I'll get it setup some day...
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Old 11/15/2007, 03:00 AM
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Shallow cube club here too..
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Old 11/15/2007, 07:24 AM
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In the wise words of Borat:

"WOW WOW WEE WAH!"

I didnt know there were any shallow cubers!! Im really excited to see your tanks and ideas..

Best,

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Old 11/15/2007, 08:23 AM
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Ok guys, you need to post pics too!!

818reefer- WOW! very nice tanks!
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Its great to see another shallow tank on the make!
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Old 11/15/2007, 10:27 AM
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What types of SPS are you looking to stock with? Can't wait to see some pics.
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