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Old 08/14/2007, 06:52 AM
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detritus free sump??

Can anyone tell me how they stop detritus build up in their sumps? I like using over flow and sump to hide equipment and grow chaeto but removing detritus becomes a pain.
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Old 08/14/2007, 07:27 AM
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You could put a power head in the area where the detritus settles. That will keep it suspended in the sump and give your skimmer a chance to get rid of it.
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Old 08/14/2007, 07:56 AM
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More flow!! Don't give it a chance to settle.
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Old 08/14/2007, 07:57 AM
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Also, a filter sock may keep a lot of detritus from the tank from reaching your sump.
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Old 08/14/2007, 07:57 AM
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i second the filter sock.
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Old 08/14/2007, 08:10 AM
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Could someone show me a link to a filter sock - never heard that in the UK?
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Old 08/14/2007, 08:14 AM
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I am with you, I was tired of the build up. I am trying a thicker filter sock, I beleive its 200 micron, it hasn't been in there long enough to tell a difference yet.
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Old 08/14/2007, 08:16 AM
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Old 08/14/2007, 08:17 AM
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I was extremely skeptical of removable baffles when I first read this article, but I have since made a sump utilizing this method and it's worked flawlessly!! The baffles are completely removable, you can sponge out the sump during every water change, and it's extremely versatile in the event you want to install more hardware. It's always an idea.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume...es/baffles.htm
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Old 08/14/2007, 08:41 AM
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Do you turn the return pump off when you feed the tank? Detritus is usually caused by the break down of food, and if you don't let uneaten food into the sump, you will have less detritus to worry about. I went through the same thing with my old sump, but when I started turning the pump off and light feedings, it got much better.
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Old 08/14/2007, 09:14 AM
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I actually encourage detritus in my sump so that I can siphon it out. I can remove it from the sump better than anywhere else and it lets my skimmer do the job it was intended to do.
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Old 08/14/2007, 09:24 AM
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My sump is on the floor so I can't siphon from it. Bi weekly siphon from the display is easier for me.
I think I need more mechanical filtering seeing the comments here.
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Old 08/14/2007, 09:50 AM
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just keep in mind that the filter socks need to be cleaned at least every other day. i have quite a few of them and swap them out daily and toss them in the washer once a week to keep the supply of clean ones up.
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Old 08/14/2007, 10:42 AM
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My sump is on the floor so I can't siphon from it. Bi weekly siphon from the display is easier for me.
I think I need more mechanical filtering seeing the comments here.
here is what i do to rid my sump of unwanted nastys, i use a turky baster to get it out, but all that stuff on the bottom if a great area to grow pods, i only clean out half of a side every time i do it which is about every 2-3 months
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Old 08/14/2007, 10:46 AM
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Also, a filter sock may keep a lot of detritus from the tank from reaching your sump.

Yeah, rather than letting it settle where it can be siphoned out, or dealt with by animals, lets hold it in a highly oxygenated area so that it breaks down into Nitrate and Phosphate as quickly as possible.
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Old 08/14/2007, 10:55 AM
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Yeah, rather than letting it settle where it can be siphoned out, or dealt with by animals, lets hold it in a highly oxygenated area so that it breaks down into Nitrate and Phosphate as quickly as possible.
or rather then being lazy we can swap them out every other day with a clean one and then we don't have NO3/PO4 problems or detritus in the sump to deal with.
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Old 08/14/2007, 11:00 AM
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My sump is on the floor so I can't siphon from it.
A cheap wet dry vac is what I've always used. Works like a champ.
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Old 08/14/2007, 11:09 AM
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or rather then being lazy we can swap them out every other day with a clean one and then we don't have NO3/PO4 problems or detritus in the sump to deal with.
Or, you can just feed all of your overflow water into your skimmer, and not worry about it in the first place.



You sure as heck can siphon from a tank on the floor. You just can't siphon all that much out. Its the top of the water that matters, not the bottom.

A powerhead with a filtersock strapped to its outlet is a good way to clean a detritus filled sump.
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Old 08/14/2007, 11:15 AM
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Or, you can just feed all of your overflow water into your skimmer, and not worry about it in the first place.
unfortunately I've not been able to productively get an overflow to drive a Beckett and on my other skimmers they don't fair so well at the higher flow rates that i have from my overflows, so if it's OK with you, i'll continue to use the filter socks and swap them out every other day.
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Old 08/14/2007, 11:44 AM
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My sump is on the floor too, so I use a powerhead and some tubing in my sump to pump out water when I do a water change. While it's pumping out the water into a bucket I use my hand or a scrubber to kick up the crap. Any junk that has settled gets sucked right out and permanently exits the system. Problem permanently solved for $25.00 and water changes are a breeze.
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Old 08/14/2007, 11:49 AM
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I just recently vacuumed the sump bottom of my tank (I need to keep up on this area.) I used a MJ1200 and a piece of 1/2" vinyl hose to remove the junk. Took less than a minute and now the bottom is clean again. Just be careful with unplugging the MJ if your hands are wet with salt water.
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Old 08/14/2007, 01:17 PM
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If you want to vacuum it without removing water get a canister filter and use it as a sump vac.
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Old 08/14/2007, 01:21 PM
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I use a pump and vinyl hose to remove the nasties. I'll need to do it again soon.
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Old 08/14/2007, 01:23 PM
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http://www.drycleaningfilters.com/fi...ag_pricing.htm
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Old 08/14/2007, 01:26 PM
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You guys are crazy, use a simple turkey baster and a fish net. Strain out the detrius in the net and poor the water back in. That way you don't even have to mix up any extra Salt water...
 


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