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#51
09/01/2003, 07:15 PM
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kalk reactor
Try plumbing it with a trap, i drip down to a sump, are you driping up to the tank or down to a sump?
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#52
09/01/2003, 07:25 PM
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I am dripping to a float valve that is positioned in my sump. I am using 1/4 flex tube which is connected to a John Guest 1/4 thread X quick connect a couple of inches down from the top of my reactor.
The float valve is just there as a fail safe in case my electric float valve fails. |
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#53
09/01/2003, 07:29 PM
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I don't have any pressure, I am using gravity to feed into a 5 gallon bucket. The bucket drives the reactor.
How about a large hose clamp? My Martha Stewart lid has a small lip. It may work. I don't see how you are getting pressure. If the output is unrestricted you should have as much pushed into the unit being pushed out. NOFEAR : I am doing the same idea except I used a 1/4 connector from US Plastics. It allowed me put a piece of 1/4 poly that goes right up to the top of my reactor. Last edited by GROSSR; 09/01/2003 at 07:35 PM. |
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#54
09/01/2003, 07:38 PM
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reactor
hey nf29
I think your problem is the float at the sump, mine has never overflowed. I use a dosing pump and a float switch in the sump on a timer, the reactor output is just a piece of tubing down to the sump. My ro water is controled by a water coolers float assy in a two gallon bucket , it fits the 1/4" poly tubing. Ill try to get a picture and post it>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GEBC |
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#55
09/01/2003, 07:42 PM
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This is what I think is happening.
My reactor is being fed by an RO/DI unit... When the RO/DI unit is triggered by the Auto-Top to start pumping water, it pumps it into the reactor. The reactor begins filling which in turn dumps water into the sump. When the RO/DI unit stops pumping water, I am losing the 2" of water above the effluent output on the reactor. For some reason it is letting all of that effluent flow into the sump. This in turn creates a large air bubble at the top of the reactor. When RO/DI unit tries to fill the reactor on the next go around, I think the air pocket is pushing the cap off. I think that is how it is happening, but it is hard to tell. I am thinking that the only reason I am getting the air pocket is because the Martha lid is not airtight to begin with??? Is that making sense?!?!? I should not be getting any extra air into the reactor unless there is some kind of air leak around the lid. Otherwise no air could get in to push the water out. I am not a physics expert but I think that is what is happening? I have tried 2 separate lids to make sure it is not the lid... I just don't think they are 100% air tight. But, I may be wrong. Make sense to anyone? |
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#56
09/01/2003, 07:50 PM
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I believe I understand what is going on. The output is 3 inches below the lid. Gravity will drain the water out to that point. I put a 1/4 inch poly that goes from the inside of the unit up to the bottom of the Martha lid.
I can email a pic if need be? Rich |
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#57
09/01/2003, 07:50 PM
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reactor
the trap maintains the water level in my reactor, i could run it without a lid if i wanted to. Here is that float assy
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#60
09/01/2003, 07:53 PM
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another picture
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#61
09/01/2003, 07:55 PM
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reactor
No its not restricted, i set the trap height to the bottom of the martha lid and the tubing just runs into the sump.
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#62
09/01/2003, 08:00 PM
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As I said, I am using gravity. The bottom of my bucket is a couple of inches above the Martha lid. I am filling the bucket manually. I use a bulkhead with a valve to restrict the water into the reactor.
If I open the valve fully the water streams out of the output, so I have to tweak the valve to get the drip rate I want. I too can run the unit without the Martha lid. It is there to simply keep air out. Somehow you have pressure. The only time the lid popped is then I turned it upside down filled with water. I was testing to see how tight the lid was. So enough pressure will pop the lid. Do you have any pics? rich |
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#63
09/01/2003, 08:03 PM
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Is the output of the RO/DI connected directly to the reactor, or is it going into another container, like greeneyed has it set up?
I am wondering if the RO is directly connected, maybe it is pushing so much water the output cannot handle it, and you get the back pressure. |
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#64
09/01/2003, 08:05 PM
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Nf29
do you have a float valve on the reactors output? |
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#65
09/01/2003, 08:10 PM
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The output is unrestricted. The solenoid shuts off the water "in front" of the reactor. The only pressure is coming from the water being pumped in by the RO/Di unit. The water flows unrestricted into the sump.
I just tried making a trap with the flex tube (ro/di line) to see if that would help. I raised the level above the effluent output in the reactor and with the addition of the trap it did not run out int the sump, so it appears to be holding in the reactor. This would keep it from getting that air pocket. I am going to take some pictures now that might clear things up. NF29 |
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#72
09/01/2003, 08:26 PM
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Final shot. This is where the effluent goes into the sump. The float valve is there so that the tank does not get overflowed. This only shuts off the effluent flow if it gets an inch higher than the electric float valve:
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#73
09/01/2003, 08:27 PM
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Nf29
did the trap solve your problem? |
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#75
09/01/2003, 08:34 PM
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In my eyes it all looks ok, except that you are pushing water into the unit with the pressure of RO/DI. I don't have the black tube for the air, but, my knowledge of physics says that water will go to the point of least resistance. In this case the Martha lid.
What does the output look like when the RO/DI is pushing water into the unit? Does it dribble or stream? I am going to guess it streams. If it does not stream then you have somesort of blockage in the output line. My ro/di is 10 feet below the reactor and 40 feet away and I get a good stream when I fill my bucket. |
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