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Just ordered 2 of those kits from protein-skimmer..... Thanks for the link Luke....
So far these skimmers look like they're going to do alright.... I cant wait to get mine on Monday. |
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Have you remeasure the air pull? The 200's sicce was pulling 50scfh according to MS
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A new day and a better running pump. The pump is no longer loud it's now very quiet. The reason I was hesitant to post "initial" air numbers earlier in the thread is because I expected to get much better numbers after the pump was running smooth.
Here is the new update after a minor tweak to the venturi position. We'll see if I can improve more on that number in the upcoming days. |
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did you adjust the air nipple like i mentioned earlier? Is that where the air increase came from, or is it just typical mesh breakin? What water level are you running it in?
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Might have to get one of these after i start seeing feedback
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That's what I'm waiting on... $300+ for a piece of equipment is NOT cheap.
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I'm running in exactly 8" in all the pics I've posted, but I increased that to 9" last night to see what would happen. |
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Nice. Thanks for posting Joker I have a few Q's....can you please verify:
1) This is a genuine Sicce pump. Looks like the mesh & possibly venturi modded by M.S.? 2) Collection cup drilled for external waste collector. Is there a plug included for someone who doesn't use it? Thanks
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The collection cup is drilled nicely for an external waste collector. It does not include a plug...I used a vacuum line plug I had laying around in my garage. |
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I guess my question would be, how do you get these pumps to their optimal performance?
I guess time will tell... Thanks Joker! |
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I've been trying several different mesh configurations today and the best I've come up with is posted below. I think I'm going to stop messing with it now and just let it run a few days. The only thing different between yesterday's best #'s and today's best is that I used spiderwire fishing line to attach the mesh instead of zip ties on the last attempt.
If I remove the pump from the skimmer body I'm getting 45-50 SCFH, but with it attached this is the best I've been able to achieve. You can see in the video a nice steady air draw. http://picasaweb.google.com/jokerjp/...38788698779138 On a side note I broke my first shaft today. Completely my fault as I was having startup issues with one of my configurations and snapped the ceramic shaft while trying to work on it while it was running...good thing I had an extra laying around |
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Joker, what does the scfh do if you lower the water as low as it will go in the skimmmer? less head to test your theory, which is most likely correct. So the pump's do pull the air they are just being restricted somehow....hmmm. If thats the case then how would ati and orce be able to get the scfh out of the sicce's with teh same amount of head pressure. Whats the diameter of the output of the skimmer into the body? If the body taperes or restric's the flow it would be the problem. Thats a bummer to hear though.
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Glad you tried spyderwire. I've always wonder why people used zipties to begin with... They are significantly bulkier and risk throwing off the balance of the wheel vs fishing line...
I can tell you are a tinker bunny! haha! |
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I'm getting very similar results on my ATI BM 160. I'm actually pulling about 5 SCFH more with the SWC unit, but I'm suspect that's due to my tweaking and not related to the skimmer body itself. The pump's outflow into the skimmer body isn't restricted, but it does feed directly into a 90 degree elbow, which might be causing restriction, but is needed to direct the flow in a "swirl" before the bubble plate. I'm going to let it run like this a few days then I may try lowering or raising the water level which is the last variable that i can think of. I'm not bummed at all with these numbers. I honestly don't think I need > 30 SCFH to make this skimmer perform. Perhaps I'm naive, but I'm not sure the constant quest for more air is always better. It depends on the skimmer body and a host of other factors IMO. |
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I'd agree with you on the 160 but the 200 and 250 are just begging for more air than that ; ) I'd just like to see some more air figures with one of those two. As you would i'm sure as well. Great job with the posts btw
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Hopefully someone with one of the bigger skimmers will post their number soon. I'm interested to see what others are getting!
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Nope, I'm a cheap ba$stard that just buys SPS's and Zoas!
I just think that if I am going to spend $300, it should work and work well! I'm not usually one to buy blindly... I'd like to think that I'm an informed consumer. And yes, I bought my odyssea skimmer knowingly. |
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"I'm guessing you haven't bought much decent equipment then? I think it's a bargain"
Depends ... you pay 350 for something and still have to tinker with it to perform well.... is that a bargain ? |
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It's all relative. I've bought a $20 item that I've spent time and money on trying to mod/make better. Some just like to tinker and have better than average results that's all.
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My favorite skimmer pump is the odyssea wp1000. 39.99 and it will do 55+ scfh and never have restart problems.......I'm definately a cheapo
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do you have pics of the impellar tied with the spiderwire
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