How are fish procured in various places?

[Debbie64]

I know that in Hawaii it's against the law to use cyanide or dynamite to catch fish. What about in other parts of the world from which we frequently get fish? Solomon Islands, Indian Ocean, Fiji, etc.

Anybody have specs on this?

[GSMguy]

we get lots from the caribean but no the whole caribean haiti has the least amount of laws therefore most caribean livestock and live rock come from Haiti. as far as the rest of the world most comes from the south pacific and indo china seas also a good amount makes it out of the red sea. i dont know stats but i know stuff comes from all over the world

[bertoni]

There's lots of cyanide collection done. I think the Phillippines is one example. Depending on the species, there's a good chance that an animal was caught with cyanide. There's a forum for discussing this type of issue, if you want more details.

[reefshadow]

Hopefully any fish you buy are netted, but as they go through a series of stops until they get to your LFS it is difficult to tell. I assume you are talking about the ornamental industry and not food.

I'm sure alot of the economically poorer areas are still using cyanide.

I've never run across any difinative stats that will tell you where the highest probability of cyanide caught species are from though. If the species has a very wide range you may not even be able to pin down where it came from.

I have heard that some species are more likely to be cyanide caught.

I'm interested too though, maybe someone in the know will chime in.

[bertoni]

Moved for more views.

[GreshamH]

Originally posted by Debbie64
I know that in Hawaii it's against the law to use cyanide or dynamite to catch fish. What about in other parts of the world from which we frequently get fish? Solomon Islands, Indian Ocean, Fiji, etc.

Anybody have specs on this?

The usual suspects are Veitnam, Indo, Bali and PI for CN use. It is belived that Indo now has a higher CN use then PI.

FWIW< CN is illegal in every MO collecting country for the use in capture of MO. Only one nation allows the permitted use of a drug for the capture of MO, the US. Quinaldine, and it's delvery agent, are permitted in FLA for the use in capturing MO.

There's absolutly no reason to use anything other then nets. You can catch the same amount with nets, then with CN.

[cortez marine]

Cyanide collecting has generated more revenue for the office bound environmental business groups pretending to be alarmed at it and pretending to reform it and solve it then it has for the fish collectors.
It has grown over the past 20 years to become a a multi million dollar business now and anchors good salaries to "work on it."

One ex-cyanide using village in Bali has had so many wannabie, grant money driven, eco-types visiting to associate themselves with the conversion that they charge em for staying the nite and using the shower.

The village is a success story that doesn't market itself well. So, the market oriented eco-folks want to associate themselves with it as they have not engineered successes on their own.
For this they must now pay cash...3 dollars a nite.

The village is wary of being used by foreign schemes and there was a rock throwing event a while ago.
Cyanide fish have been a seminal part of our illegal trade in fishes for 40 years now and the trade has enjoyed a commensal relationship with eco-groups for over 20 years.
I don't know whose the most guilty party anymore.
Steve