Bubble King - Page 8

moonpod · #**176** 01/16/2006, 10:30 AM

conversion fittings are available. I got mine via finsreef.com

Fliger · #**177** 01/16/2006, 10:54 AM

Hey Henry - with the craftsmanship of the RD that is only evident when you run one firsthand, I'd imagine they will run a very long time. Its probably the finest piece of equipment in our hobby - period.

I would agree with Chuck totally - Deltec is a great product. I put BK, Deltec and H&S in a category completely by themselves. They are all constructed perfectly, researched and optimized to near perfection.

There is a premium for the BK, but I think the skimming for dollar quality is pretty equal. There is no doubt that the BK300 ($2500) is much stronger than the 702 2x1260 ($1700). But its also $800 more. I'd put the 300 more inline with the 1003 3x1260 ($3100+). There is another great choice of H&S 3x1260 A300 for $2300. I had that skimmer and can say with complete certainty it was as good as the BK300. Its also less expensive, uses Eheims which can be replaced easily. The downside to me is that is louder.

I just sold my BK because it won't fit under my new tank. And I'm using Chuck's old 702. My next skimmer is a VERY tough choice. It will either be a BK250 internal, Deltec 702 or a custom H&S. And it IS a tough choice. I think the BK might be the best, but I prefer externals (can't fit an ext BK under the tank). The Deltec and H&S are a toss up. Deltecs look sexier, but replacement parts are expensive. Deltec charges over $500 for an Eheim as H&S is $299 for the same pump.

As far as customer service - H&S and Deltec have a slight edge here. Getting a hold of someone to help you is probably equal among the three, but getting parts will be MUCH easier for D and H&S. But BK is working hard to change that.

Hard choice, but there is no bad one!

HOZERTHEBONEFISH · #**178** 01/16/2006, 05:04 PM

Moonpod and Fliger:

Thanks for your help guys. Looks like I will likely order BK.

Next dillema, what is the best model: 300 400 or 500ext? It will be used in a fish room so size is not an issue. I will have a heavily stocked 400 gallon(total volume) sps dominated system.

Question for you guys... What is the size of the neck of the 300 and 400 ext compared to say Deltec 702's neck. If they are similar would it possible to mod and tweak the SCH and mount it...Just wondering out loud.

moonpod · #**179** 01/16/2006, 05:48 PM

the 400 is much larger.

I dunno the 300.

Well....since I personally don't believe that overskimming is possible....

Tagareef · #**180** 01/16/2006, 07:30 PM

HOZERTHEBONEFISH,

Now that I've built this prototype self cleaning head for my AP902 (thanks for your input moonpod!) I think it's possible to adapt a similar design to most ANY skimmer. I've had this hooked-up for a few weeks now and truly believe it when they say it improves performance by 20%. This one is variable speed with a Swiss motor, custom made brushes and the auto-flush feature. I am building a new version that doesn't look so DIY. This IMO is a must have for those HUGE Bubble King cups.

Luis

Lunchbucket · #**181** 01/16/2006, 10:49 PM

Tagareef - you DIY'ed that!! WOW! Great job

Lunchbucket

Bebo77 · #**182** 01/17/2006, 12:44 AM

tagareef.. what do you do for a living?

Tagareef · #**183** 01/17/2006, 02:04 AM

Thanks Lunchbucket...It's a work in progress. I've had the idea in my head for over a year and just recently it all started to come together.

Gabriel, I am doing time at the local phone company, Qwest, 27 years so far of my lifetime term! Your 300 is coming along nicely...I'll put you down for 2 self cleaning heads - one for the AP702 and one for the Barr!!!

If any of you are thinking about make a SCH for your skimmers, the 1st thing I suggest is to make another lid for it just in case you goof. I was so paranoid it took me almost an hour to drill 5 holes in the lid. Measure 10 times - drill once. I couldn't imagine drilling a bunch of holes in my new Bubble King's lid!

Luis

HOZERTHEBONEFISH · #**184** 01/17/2006, 02:51 AM

Luis

Please put me down on the waitlist for 1 SCH for my BK!
That is an awesome stuff you did. It really doesnt look DIY to me

Henry

cali_reef · #**185** 01/17/2006, 03:20 PM

Tagareef, that looks awesome!! Do you have a thread showing how everything is put together and maybe a part list?

Konadog · #**186** 01/17/2006, 04:45 PM

What Pierce said (cali_reef) Do you have a part list?

You should start a thread in the DIY forum on the making of this!

Tagareef · #**187** 01/18/2006, 01:09 AM

Thanks guys...I'll try to get something together for a thread on the DIY forum in the next couple of weeks. It would be nice to brainstorm with people to maybe resolve some design issues I've come up against.

Didn't mean to hijack the BK thread!

Thanks again for the support...I've never received so many PM's and e-mails!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luis

rufio173 · #**188** 01/18/2006, 07:17 AM

Awesome addition in any case, how much would you say it cost you overall. The prices for these things retail are ridiculous!

Peace,
John

HOZERTHEBONEFISH · #**189** 01/18/2006, 08:53 AM

Luis

It goes to show that there is a definite market for that equipment. The main reason I want one is ...I hate cleaning skimmers!! I find nog and crud build up in the neck disgusting!

btw you have pm

Henry

Klaus Jansen · #**190** 01/19/2006, 02:02 PM

@ Ey,... Henry ...

US reefers are to lazy for cleaning the cup from Hand ??
And.... very nice development ..

best regards... Klaus

Fliger · #**191** 01/24/2006, 01:30 PM

Final pictures with my buddy, who has been shipped off to a very lucky person. Waiting to see what Mr. Jansen comes up with next on his "smaller" units.

Poured out from the above pic

Don't I clean up nice

Fliger · #**192** 01/24/2006, 02:28 PM

OK, my .mac account is acting up. There are pix on this page ....

http://homepage.mac.com/dfliger/PhotoAlbum11.html

HOZERTHEBONEFISH · #**193** 01/24/2006, 03:17 PM

Fliger

Looks brand new!!

I took the plunge and ordered a BK500ext.

I also heard from a reliable source that RE will come out with a SCH by the middle of the year!!!

Will post pix when I get the skimmer.

Henry

Lunchbucket · #**194** 01/24/2006, 09:26 PM

yeah when the baby sized ones coming out??

Lunchbucket

arconom · #**195** 01/24/2006, 09:48 PM

Klaus

Like Lunch, I also would like to know is there any news on the new Smaller BK skimmers? Pricing,Specs?

A few pictures

A few peeks

Konadog · #**196** 01/25/2006, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tagareef
Thanks guys...I'll try to get something together for a thread on the DIY forum in the next couple of weeks. It would be nice to brainstorm with people to maybe resolve some design issues I've come up against.

Didn't mean to hijack the BK thread!

Thanks again for the support...I've never received so many PM's and e-mails!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luis

Any progress on the DIY thread?

angels mcgee · #**197** 08/08/2006, 09:34 PM

Can someone post a diagram of a Bubble King?