Euro-reef RECIRCULATING Skimmer Pics Please

drblank1 · #1 12/02/2004, 09:15 AM

Can anyone who has an ER recirculating skimmer please post a picture of it? I cannot find a pic on the web and would like to see what they are before I buy one.

delv · #2 12/02/2004, 09:48 AM

They are on their website...take another look. Or, look at the Deltec website...that's what the Euroreefs are attempting to copy (not sure how successfully though)...

d.

moonpod · #3 12/02/2004, 11:01 AM

This is from the Euro Reef website

drblank1 · #4 12/02/2004, 02:47 PM

Are the recirculating skimmers worth the extra money?

mikester · #5 12/02/2004, 02:53 PM

Yes, but if you are looking into the recirculating Euroreefs, also look into the other recirculating skimmers (Deltec, H&S, Grotech, etc.). The difference in price is not as much as you might think.

pbs911 · #6 12/02/2004, 03:39 PM

That pic is not a recirculating skimmer.

Rendos · #7 12/02/2004, 03:45 PM

yes, it is...the intake comes from the skimmer and the output goes back to the skimmer. How is that not a recirculating skimmer?

moonpod · #8 12/02/2004, 04:23 PM

paul how do you figure? Yeah, they don't show the input into the skimmer, but the pump intake comes off the bottom of the skimmer, so the pump is "closed loop" on the skimmer=recirculating=external model ER. Not the greatest pix I'll admit, but it's theirs, not mine.

Todd March · #9 12/06/2004, 04:24 AM

Check out my gallery for pics of my ER CS8-2 RC... You can't really see the plumbing well as the skimmer sits in front of it, but you can see it working overtime with uncured LR....

Purple Haze · #10 12/06/2004, 02:59 PM

so how much more are the recirculating er's than non ricirculating?

Chap · #11 12/06/2004, 05:49 PM

How is the ER in the pic being supplied with water? Is the green hose attached to a pump?

thanks

Todd March · #12 12/06/2004, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chapkl
How is the ER in the pic being supplied with water? Is the green hose attached to a pump?

You got it, Jason, that's exactly what's going on. The green Eheim hose is leading to the feed pump.

Quote:

Originally posted by Purple Haze
so how much more are the recirculating er's than non ricirculating?

ER has lowered the prices on the recirculating skimmers as they get more popular and sell better (they are still custom ordered/made and not a stock item however). They are generally priced between $100 (CS8-2) to $140 (CS12-2) more than in-sump skimmers.

They really do perform better in my opinion after using both types. The extra feed pump is a PITA at times (yet another pump in the system to maintain), but it's worth it.

moonpod · #13 12/06/2004, 07:08 PM

double

pbs911 · #14 12/17/2004, 09:02 PM

Your right. Sorry, it is a bad pic. THe other pics ER had show both pumps.

Hef · #15 01/21/2005, 12:16 PM

Lets bring this thread back to life.
Anyone done a Mod of an ER to a Recirc design? I've read a little on it now, sounds like bringing the extra water through the skimmer from the overflows is the best method, and easiest, no additional pumps. Drill a hole in the side of the body around where that Green Hose goes, and plump the pump intake into another new hole in the bottom of the body. Feed the water from the overflow, in my case, probably around 900 GPH. I have a ES8-2+, which I think has the Sedra 9000 on it.

Anything wrong with this idea? Any other ideas?

Thanks
Hef

Rendos · #16 01/21/2005, 12:46 PM

I haven't done a mod, but I have done a DIY ER recirculating clone.

Hef · #17 01/21/2005, 01:03 PM

Tell me a little about it. So you are pumping extra water through that clear tube. Doenst look like a lot of flow. Can you tell me how much it is and why you decided on that number? I cant see where you bring the main pump back into the skimmer body.

So how is it working?

Rendos · #18 01/21/2005, 10:35 PM

I have a 500 GPH pump supplying water to the skimmer and a Sedra 5000 recirculating and introducing air to the skimmer. Maybe this is a clearer picture...

Chap · #19 01/21/2005, 11:00 PM

Nicely done Pikey. Does your feed pump introduce air and water or just air? Would there be any benefit to using 2 needle wheel pumps (1 feed, 1 recirc)? I am going to mod my ASM G-4 with a recirc pump but can't find a needle wheel for my Sen 900 (feed pump).

merlock116 · #20 01/21/2005, 11:00 PM

very nice handiwork. very clean and impressive.

radone · #21 01/22/2005, 09:04 AM

Pikey

Where did you find the grommets to go through the acrylic with? I'm doing something on the same line but haven't found a way to seal the pipe transitions. TIA

by the way lookin goood

Rendos · #22 01/22/2005, 09:31 AM

Chapkl - thanks. The feed pump only adds water from the sump. On a larger skimmer (like a G-4) you could probably use the additional air induction to make more foam.
merlock116 - thanks.
radone - thanks. The grommets are called Uni-Seals. I get mine here.
http://www.aussieglobe.com/uniseal3.htm

Just be sure to lubricate your PVC before pushing it through the seals or you will probably crack the acrylic. The lubricant helps the pipe glide through easier so you do not put any pressure on it.

Hef · #23 01/22/2005, 09:38 AM

Good Info, thanks.
Thats a good view on where the extra water goes into the body. Was there any thought as to where you drilled that hole? Also, you say you are pumping it in from the sump, has anyone tried letting it flow in from the tank overflow. That's what I'm planning.

Hef

radone · #24 01/22/2005, 12:40 PM

Thanks for the info

merlock116 · #25 01/22/2005, 02:56 PM

any problems where the body diameter suddenly shrinks to the smaller diameter in the collection cup without a smooth transition? (in terms of bubble formation)

how much in materials did it cost (not including the pump)