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Old 12/23/2007, 05:29 PM
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anyone regualte lights with chiller?

I was thinking about having the halides turn off and the chiller on when the tank temp hits 81 F. The lights would come back on and the chiller off when the temp returns to 79F.

Any thoughts on this idea and does anyone already do this>?>>


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Old 12/23/2007, 05:41 PM
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It would work if set up properly the only downside I see is that the metal halide bulbs life will be shortend due to being turned off and on so much. Why do you want to do this anyway??
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Old 12/23/2007, 05:55 PM
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try a fan across the top of the tank. It will help blow heat away from the surface that's created by the MH.
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Old 12/23/2007, 06:01 PM
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Also couldnt be good for corals. With the constant on/off
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Old 12/23/2007, 06:01 PM
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Why on earth would you want your tank to stay that stable? Also, I don't think the corals would appreciate the sudden on/off of the lights - when I turn my lights off and back on, the corals take an hour or so to open up again... I let my temp swing all over the place and it doesn't phase them. There is actually fairly strong evidence that temp swings are good for them.
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Old 12/23/2007, 06:16 PM
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Why on earth would you want your tank to stay that stable? Also, I don't think the corals would appreciate the sudden on/off of the lights - when I turn my lights off and back on, the corals take an hour or so to open up again... I let my temp swing all over the place and it doesn't phase them. There is actually fairly strong evidence that temp swings are good for them.
As much as I hae bosten right now LOL. I am going to side with you. Mine corals love the temp swings.
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Old 12/23/2007, 06:47 PM
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there are 2 sides to the coin- people also say that the temp sings are the worst thing for the corals. My plan would cut the halides off for about 30 minutes every 3 or so hrs. the actictic would stay on the whole time.

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Old 12/23/2007, 07:02 PM
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My corals open 5 minutes prior to lights on and retract 5 minutes prior to lights off. The fish retire for the day at around the same times......

If a fish has the instinct/nature/anything to in anyway react to when the light is on or off it must be better to not screw with it. IMHO
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Old 12/23/2007, 07:26 PM
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I'm on the flip side, large temp swings are bad??? Although I've never had them, so it's all good....

I wouldn't turn my lights on and off, just let the chiller do what it
was intended for..
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Old 12/23/2007, 07:42 PM
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As much as I hae bosten right now LOL. I am going to side with you. Mine corals love the temp swings.
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Old 12/23/2007, 07:53 PM
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yes, ricks large temp swings could be bad, but if you think about it, in the ocean, a shift in current can change the temp pretty dramatically, quickly. Most of the research I've seen on temps suggests that prolonged extreme temperature is detrimental, but short term changes may be beneficial... I can't comment for sure on what large temp swings are, but I often let my tank swing up to 6 degrees a day and everything is doing great.

Circadian disruption, due to light perturbation, is going to be much worse than any short change in temp. Especially in physiologically simpler organisms, such as cnidarians, where only a brief pulse is needed to reset the clock..
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Old 12/23/2007, 08:17 PM
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I do. My Aquacontroller is set to turn off my MH if the tank temp increases to 82 degrees. I also programed into the controller that if the MH is turned off due to the temp increase, too stay off until the temp has decreased 1 degree. I actual use I have had my lights go off about an hour early on the hottest summer days maybe a dozen times. I like it as a safety, no chiller.

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Old 12/23/2007, 08:47 PM
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what is the use in having a chiller if you do not want fairly stable temps with 2 degrees'>>
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Old 12/23/2007, 10:41 PM
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To keep the tank from getting too hot- like say the upper 80s. I'm also in the camp wondering why you want the tank to stay so stable, especially at such a cool temp.
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Old 12/24/2007, 07:53 AM
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what is a good temp range than? 77-84?

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Old 12/24/2007, 08:59 AM
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77-84 is fine, but you should be able to do this without turning lights on and off... In grad school, to save money, I wouldn't run the AC. In the summer, the temp would sometimes get over 90F and two fans, pointed at the surface of the water of my 55g, was enough to keep the tank temp in the low 80's.
If you like playing with gadgets, maybe set up some fans on a temp controller.
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Old 12/24/2007, 09:00 AM
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Yeah, that's pretty good. Pretty much anywhere between 76 and 86 is good. I'd shoot for an average of 82 though.
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