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Tunze Wavebox vs. Vortech
Money is limited. Any suggestions?
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whats the tanks dimensions?
Ive played with both, and IMO the wavebox properly setup on the right tank is way more flow.
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Imo if you have the room and your tank is long I would go with the wavebox
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can you put a vortech on both ends of a 86" tank with a wavebox on one end also? or does this kinda defeat the purpose of the wave box?
Lucky
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I have both on my 215 and the VorTech does nothing to interfere with the effects of the wavebox. Great combo IMO.
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Good... I have a vortech in each end but would like the wish-wash effect of the wavebox as well. I just hate to spend the money on a wavebox if they dont get along.(way too much money to get it wrong..lol)
Thanks, Lucky
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The guys at Aquatek in Austin (distributer) said you don't really want any powerheads pushing flow at the wavebox. I have a wavebox on my 225 and love it. I have a 6080 pointing the same direction as the wavebox and I think it contributes nicely.
Lee
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Im looking at a 180 or 210. Do you guys think the wavebox is too much of an eyesore? I was thinking of having a custom tank built to hide it, but too much $$...
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They are two separate types of devices. The Wavebox is designed purely to generate a back and forth wave resonance wave motion. It does not provide good circulation of water, which is what a Vortech does. With the controller, the Vortech can reproduce this resonance wave motion and still circulate the water well. So, I'd probably go with the Vortech as it does both. It also is quite a bit less of an eyesore. The only real advantage of the Wavebox is that it may provide a larger wave, but I'm not even sure if that is the case when stacked against the Vortech.
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huh?
Just adjust the pulse on the wavebox to not make a wave now it also does both. As to the look my tank sets is a corner so to do the vortechs on both ends Id have to stare at the dry side on one of the viewing panels. That and the noise issues Ive seen with a few made me stick with the wavebox. If the look bothers you cover it with coral. Ive been saying I was going to attach some zoas, but never have. Like I said I've played with both on several tank sizes. The wavebox will serve you very well in a 180/210. You will likely need some additional flow with the wavebox to get things moving to the overflow, but my experience has been it provides enough flow to keep coral happy anywhere in the tank.
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? Ok now I have a question? Vortech noisy? Mine are fairly quiet?
Does this mean I'm lucky or is something wrong with them?
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I have the wavebox in my 180 with a 6060 and my corals are happy.
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I'm not saying the pump is trash by any means. Two vortechs with controller is a lot more investment, and in a lot of cases would be no less of an eyesore. Last edited by scottfarcuz; 12/18/2007 at 12:39 PM. |
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also consider that the vortechs have been known to cause damage (crazing) to acrylic tanks due to the high heat the motor produces.
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Iv'e heard that Wavebox's are not recommended for glass tanks because of the stress that they put on them is this correct? If not would it be O.K. to use it on a 155 bow front? and I have a 1,600 gph CPR external overflow, will this create a draining issue? Sorry if I HiJacked.
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i have owned both and have to admit once dialed in the wavebox cant be beat...I admit i was a tunze basher when i had my vortec...Best deal i have made trading my wireless vortec for the wavebox
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Kind of obvious, but using 2 vortechs to make the same resonance wave will cause the same tank stress. To me it all boils down to what you like, want, and want to spend. I've had issues with my tunze pumps in the past also. I've known several with issues with vortechs. Both have awesome service, and will go way out of the way to keep you happy. Your HOB overflow very well could be an issue. If you can center it in the tank it will have less effect of the wave action, and when the wavebox is tuned right the water line doesn't move up and down like it does at each end of the tank. I always thought a sumpless 125 FOWLR with a wavebox on one end, and a tunze skimmer hanging in the center would be awesome tank. You can make huge waves in narrow tank without a lot of overflows or rocks to disrupt the flow. |
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LFS has 2 boxes in a 675g I'd guess its rocking at least 3" waves. It wasn't tuned right upon setup, and I got a chance to play with it last week. Everyone thats seen it since has been shocked. I mentioned to the owner maybe seeing what 1 box would do. |
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Thanks.
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Sounds like im going with the wavebox then... I want to devote this tank to mostly softies and LPS, so im thinking the wavebox, plus one or two wavesea's or seaswirls on the returns should be enough.
What do you guys think? No closed loop, and if I find I need more flow I could put a vortech on the side... btw the return pump would be pushing around 3k gph I would think, so I would have some of the overflow drain right back into the pump area of the sump, a sort of mini-closed loop... Thanks for your help guys!
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You should see the action my wavebox with a 6080 right next too it generates. I am not sure where the idea above about a wavebox not moving water, but you should see what it does in my new 225 gallon tank.
Love it. I considered both, but for the price of one vortech you have a wavebox and Tunze's customer service is the best. With closed loops and drilled holes you have more potential for leaks etc. Wavebox is easy to clean, and no more an eyesore than any other powerhead. Shoot, glue some zoa's to the box and just keep top open (which is out of water anyway) and pump intake open). Lee
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