HELP! Huge Indoor Saltwater Lagoon on Beachfront Property?!?

[sin05_omar]

aastretch... Two pumps one pumping into the tank and another pumping back to the sea wont work... What if one of the pumps break down.... there will be trouble and due to the volume our freind here is planning... its a one way ticket to double trouble...

All i need is one good pump from the sea---> tank ... and from tank--> sea can be taken care by an enormous overflow...

[seansx]

Yea HPD Turbo...Mexico is a very different place..who ever has more power can do more things...but Lagoonytune...you need to get some Emperor Angel Fish they are everywhere in the sea of cortez..catching them would be a trick though!

[reef / aholic]

Originally posted by Lagoonytune
I just bought some beachfront property on the Sea of Cortez in Mexico.

Good website on reef-fish in the Sea of Cortez!!!

http://www.coralreefnetwork.com/sten.../cabo/cabo.htm

Good book on reef-fish in the Sea of Cortez!!!

Reef Fishes of the Sea of Cortez by By Donald A. Thomson, Lloyd T. Findley, Alex N.

[seansx]

I agree with Omar...two pumps will just bring more hassle. Just get the one main pump pumping ocena water into the lagoon/tidepools (pretty cool idea) then have a massive overflow with underground tubing (under the sandy beach) back to the ocean. Gravity will work it

[seansx]

What type of pump are you looking into?

[scottdwh]

Thought this thread was to good to be true. How come no updates?

[Gary Majchrzak]

Greg- research/Google the lagoon display @ the Waikiki Aquarium in HI. They use natural seawater. It sounds like you're planning something similar. Good luck.

[jjk82901]

i don't see the point, just go get your lazy a$$ off the couch and go snorkling if all you want is "to catch all my own critter right in front of my house." you are a true example of a person that has too much money and/or power (wife) that gives our hobby a bad reputation (as well as humanity). i hope you grow up some day and think, wow i can just go outside and see the wonders instead of trying to make people think you are important or cool. personally i hope a huricane lands on your house. good luck douche.

[virginiadiver69]

Sounds like someone has an inferiority complex.

[Reefaquariumnut]

JJK,

Grow up.

[huge1day]

why is there always a hater???

Bart

[Lagoonytune]

If I lived in Montana I would build an indoor trout pond, with acrylic viewing panels, so that I could share the magnificence of wild trout in a controlled setting. But that's just me.

We have to work with what we've got. So we're still in the planning stage here in Kino Bay. Visiting the property today but not building for about another six months. I will take some pictures for y'all.

Merry Christmas Everyone!

Greg

[jnarowe]

That's a nice spit you are on there. Very cool. GL!

[sayn3ver]

perfect example of suburban/urban sprawl. Perfectly empty beach in pristine condition and someone feels they have the right to build on it. Nothing like capturing the beauty of nature with somebodies house in the middle of the shot. Why not buy an exsisting structure or build in an already developed section? It's a magnificent view and i can't for the life of me figure out why someone whats to poor cement all over it to build a house.

seems selfish to me.

and in response to jjk82901,

i think the responsible thing to do is what the original poster is setting out to do. It would be an ecological nightmare to have a lagoon full of non-native species considering he is pumping water to and from the ocean. I do not know what kind of water treatment/sewer system is implemented there but even having the water go down the drain still has its risks. I understand people in the US have reef tanks close to the ocean, but if you live in a temperate section I'd imagine the risk goes down due to the organisms not being able to survive the cooler water temperatures. It would be impossible to prevent non native macro algae, coral, fish etc from ever accidentally getting released directly into the ocean.

[Lagoonytune]

Greetings all. The pristine view Sayn is referring to is 1/8 mile north of a full blown marina that will be constructed later in 2008 (So I'm not going to build on a natural preserve in case you were wondering.) Its called Kino Bay, in Sonora, Mexico. Part of the Escalera Nautica. Check it out on Google or wherever.

A year from now the pristine point you see will all be single family homes on the Sea of Cortez (Viva Progress), regardless of what I do. Best fishing, diving and boating anyone could ever ask for. And almost no one around as you can see from the pictures. Three hours South of Tucson, Arizona (the way I drive).

The whole point of "La Laguna" wll be to share the local sea life with my family and friends, particularly those who would never have a chance to see this anywhere, especially in a controlled setting.

The coolest thing of all, is that because I will just bring in fresh sea water, this project is going to be very inexpensive when you think about it. Free water, fish, coral, other critters (we say "critters" in Arizona), and no need for any of the other usual saltwater aquarium necessities.

Geez. I wish I was rich like JJK said. But I'm just a working guy. I sell health insurance over the phone and internet to the U.S. market, so I live where I want to live, so here I am. All I ever hear about on CNN is stupid Lou Dobbs dogging the "aliens" migrating North--I'm one of the few Gringos sneaking down South I guess. Anyways....

We went down to the property today and it was a bit cold and windy--even down here in Paradise. Grouper fishing pretty good right now (remind me to put a 20-lb black sea bass in the lagoon). The water in front of the lot was clear which tells me that even in the dead of winter we can recirculate effectively without having to go too far offshore for the intake.

Anyways amigos, give me six months to finalize the plan and start construction, and with all the great help I've received here I am sure we will put something pretty interesting together. Yes I will take pictures (but I'm afraid to give my address thanks to a potential unibomber or two on this site.) I appreciate your suggestions and good wishes.

Greg

[jnarowe]

yeah, it could be a dream system with very little expense. Our local marine Science center is run virtually the same way, constantly recirculating the water from Liberty Bay, where my store is located.

It's all Northewest stuff of course so even less to deal with. I think I would shy away from the tide-pool idea because it would increase the risk, particularly of crap getting into it and fouling it. But it could be done.

You could turn it into a business too...don't forget that!

[tanya72806]

wow cant wait for you to starrt this best of luck

[mrcrab]

Originally posted by Lagoonytune

Hey--what do you guys think about making this a network of "tidepools" instead of a lagoon? That way it wouldn't have to be confined to a single geometric shape, but could surround any furnishing we put on that floor? Just brainstorming....

Greg

There's no reason you couldn't go with different levels within the tank. I'd go with something freeform though rather than a geometric shape. I'll see if I can dig up some pics from the Florida Aquarium to give you a better idea of what I mean.

Ooooh...even better, you could put a couple of drains at different levels with actuated valves that would open and close at different times allowing for an incoming and outgoing tide. That way you could also incorporate your tidepools. Lots of possibilities.

And ignore the detractors that have set in. Sounds like a very worthwhile project. Just ignore the trolls.

[scottdwh]

I love this idea and will be following it. I was thinking it was a joke when it went a week and no one was posting anything on it. Look forward to seeing progress. I wouldnt worry about the haters. Seems like every thread I read on RC, there is always one.

[WDWDen]

I think its a cool idea. My only concern would be sucking up some kind oil or gasoline spill from a boat or somthing. I would suggest running the intake line down deep in the water, being careful not to suck up sand though. I would also suggest running the return line a little farther away from the intake, just to make sure your not pulling in the same water again. Depending on how big your pump line is, you'll probably have to put a mesh on the end, so no fish or anything get sucked into your pump.

Good luck man. It should be a great project.

[Reefaquariumnut]

Awesome view!! I don't know how I could wake up every morning and then head off to work having to leave that majestic landscape. Good luck with the project.

[bristle]

The salinity is probably off near the shore and changing during the day.