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Old 08/21/2007, 01:16 PM
waterfaller1 waterfaller1 is offline
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They probably catch food on their own while you are feeding.
I have my own thoughts about the green gonioporas if anyone is interested:
Most green goniopora{Stokesi} purchases are by newcomers to the hobby. Then when they post a pic, or ask how to care for it..they soon find out everyone tells them"oh no, it's going to die...bad choice..blah blah.."
Ok, so it does die...and the hobbiest never tries them again, thinking it is a taboo coral to be avoided. Truth is, their tank is new..immature, their feeding skills, and skill at keeping proper water parameters is'nt the best yet. They may have chosen a specimen that was damaged to begin with..{one of the key elements to success with them in my opinion} So it is'nt that they are impossible to keep, it's just that they need a mature tank.
Just a theory.
Some other things I have learned about them:
Never touch the flesh of the coral, hold it at the base.
Place them on a flat rock nestled into the substrate, and make sure they are stable. so that sand does'nt get on the flesh, they don't fall over, etc.
Avoid keeping shrimp like peppermints and others which harass LPS corals for the food within them.
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Old 08/21/2007, 06:58 PM
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Waterfaller - thank you so much for the input! You've been as large help. The peppermint thing has been an issue, when mine closed up that day, ALL day, it was more then likely due to them. I will keep a close eye on them to make sure that they leave mine alone.
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Old 08/22/2007, 10:17 AM
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Thats it!
Last night i was checking out my tank, the PEPPERMINT shrimp were definitely the biggest nuisance in the tank! bothering not only my gonio but my BTA! The only reason I got those suckers was to eat aptasia, but thats all gone. So I'm ditching te shrimp!
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Old 08/22/2007, 10:40 AM
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Good that you found that out. I will never add another peppermint shrimp, or skunk cleaner for that matter...more trouble than they are worth. Aiptasia can be eradicated by hand.
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Old 08/22/2007, 11:13 AM
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They probably catch food on their own while you are feeding.
I have my own thoughts about the green gonioporas if anyone is interested:
Most green goniopora{Stokesi} purchases are by newcomers to the hobby. Then when they post a pic, or ask how to care for it..they soon find out everyone tells them"oh no, it's going to die...bad choice..blah blah.."
Ok, so it does die...and the hobbiest never tries them again, thinking it is a taboo coral to be avoided. Truth is, their tank is new..immature, their feeding skills, and skill at keeping proper water parameters is'nt the best yet. They may have chosen a specimen that was damaged to begin with..{one of the key elements to success with them in my opinion} So it is'nt that they are impossible to keep, it's just that they need a mature tank.
Just a theory.
Some other things I have learned about them:
Never touch the flesh of the coral, hold it at the base.
Place them on a flat rock nestled into the substrate, and make sure they are stable. so that sand does'nt get on the flesh, they don't fall over, etc.
Avoid keeping shrimp like peppermints and others which harass LPS corals for the food within them.
I agree---its too bad they are not marketed like that--usually they are presented as a nice size, colourful and reasonably priced--all to induce the unsuspecting beginner
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Old 08/22/2007, 11:16 AM
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This is my pride n joy!
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Old 08/22/2007, 12:43 PM
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This is my pride n joy!
beautiful---how long have you had it?
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Old 08/22/2007, 04:44 PM
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I have had this guy for about one month.
Nice huh?! Its amazing to feed as well, it took time to get it to feed but now it takes food like it is going outta style!
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Old 08/22/2007, 04:49 PM
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It's gorgeous! I have the goniopora addiction. I wish I had a bigger tank, I am at my limit with them as they will probably outgrow my tank. They like to reach out and fry their neighbors..
I would love to have a blue,yellow, and the pink/green tenuidens.
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Old 08/22/2007, 07:30 PM
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I really want a BLUE! o man they look so nice! I love em!
We need to start a Goniopra thread, Dedicated to these things!
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Old 08/22/2007, 08:39 PM
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O hey, that picture i posted, do any of you see that white thing on one of the tentacles? What is that thing?
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Old 08/22/2007, 08:52 PM
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It looks like a piece of food or substrate?
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Old 08/22/2007, 08:54 PM
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Thats what i thought but it stays on there when it is fully retracted and also when it has a decent flow on it. I'm hoping it isn't some type of disease or something.
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Old 08/22/2007, 09:17 PM
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This is my pink and blue. Also it's tissue is beginning to spread onto the surrounding rock. I've had it for ~ 9 months. Mine seems to like an erratci flow around it.
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Old 08/22/2007, 09:24 PM
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Thats nice!
I see some, it looks like cleaner shrimp's little feelers! Does that thing annoy it?
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Old 08/22/2007, 10:18 PM
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It is a cleaner shrimp, I have two of them and they never touch my goni or alveopra. But they do steal food from my blasto's and zoa's/paly's.

But they are a neat addition to the tank (~1 year), and my marine betta hasn't eaten them yet.

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Old 08/23/2007, 07:36 AM
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i really don't understand the feeding. mine is just about 2 yrs old. it's on the sandbed of my 75 and lit by 6x 54 t-5s. it has grown new branches over this time. and i don't spot feed it anything!
Yours is a different species than most of the common oncs.
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Old 08/23/2007, 07:49 AM
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It's gorgeous! I have the goniopora addiction. I wish I had a bigger tank, I am at my limit with them as they will probably outgrow my tank. They like to reach out and fry their neighbors..
I would love to have a blue,yellow, and the pink/green tenuidens.
what are your water parameters? for keeping these.
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Old 08/23/2007, 08:05 AM
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Ca~450
Alk~4.00 /DKH 11.2
Mg~1350-1400
PO-4/NO-3~0
SG. 1.025
Temp 79.7-81*
PH 8.2
Variety of frozen & fresh frozen food {mysis, cyclop-eeze,shrimp,squid,scallop,grouper}with Selcon or Kent Zoe added. Coral Vibrance & Algagen live phytoplankton, decap'd BS eggs~ once or twice a week. Live copepods added at least every 2-3 months.
lots of small fish/good varied clean up crew
90 gal w/ 29 sump/29 refugium
closed loop
2 X 250 Ushio 10K MH
4 X 110 URI VHO's
2X 65 wt 6500 K PC's on fuge~opposite daylight schedule
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Old 08/23/2007, 08:05 AM
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Yours is a different species than most of the common oncs.
I've been waiting for you to show up & that's all you have to say?
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Old 08/23/2007, 02:16 PM
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I've been waiting for you to show up & that's all you have to say?
You're the one leading the way . Your gonis' and alveo looks nice and healthy!
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Old 08/23/2007, 02:26 PM
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Ahh but you are my mentor..

Thanks for the nice compliment. They are my most pridefully posessed corals. Hope you and the mrs. are doing well!

Here's another shot of them all happy and poofy..


Have you ever seen a pink centered alveopora? I need to get a pic of it, it's really pretty!
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Old 08/23/2007, 08:12 PM
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I've got 3 different Goni at the moment.

1 G. pendulus
1 G. eclipsensis
1 G. pandoraensis

Pictures aren't the best, but you get the idea... Going on a year with the first two and several months with the last.







Horrible shot of all 3

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Old 08/23/2007, 10:32 PM
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WOW!
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Old 08/24/2007, 05:18 AM
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Can these goniporas touch each other without harm?
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