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07/28/2007, 06:01 PM
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Bulb replacement time, what should I go with?
180g SPS tank
two dual 250w magnetic PFO ballasts 4 halides in LA3 reflectors started the tank off 2 years ago with XM 10k's but they were too intense, the lighting cycle was only like 5-6 hours to keep from burning the corals. switched to XM 20k's and the color is good but the growth slowed way down. what is a good bulb for growth/color that runs well on magnetic ballasts, i have been out of the loop for a while on the bulb talk so i thought i'd post to see. thanks! |
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07/28/2007, 07:59 PM
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I like my 14k Hamiltons
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07/28/2007, 08:22 PM
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I like the 10k XM's but the 14k's look nice too.
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07/28/2007, 08:48 PM
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14k Phoenix IMO.
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07/28/2007, 10:14 PM
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Not great for growth........... go with the 250w Radiums!
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07/28/2007, 10:29 PM
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add on
what about 10,000k instead of strating another thread i will
hijack this one hope thats ok. I am same as above 250 HQI double ended though i have aqualine 10,000k came with fixture so can't compare looked at Sanjay data seems xm is as good as but has smaller pecks in the blue area's does this mean less blue color? what is cct i heard the lower the # the bluer the color is this true? (on sanjay's data) All sps tank with t 5 supplimentation would like to stick with 10,000k were is Usio 14,000k data anybody know what its putting out in par this was suggested to me buy somebody who has my same lights Aqua medic 250 watt pen. Thanks for any help |
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07/29/2007, 10:14 AM
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I like the Ushio 10K w/ supplemental VHO. The light is too yellow if you dont blue it up with VHO bulbs. My setup is 2X175@10K Ushio w/ 2X110w VHO: 1 actinic 03, one 10K
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07/29/2007, 01:37 PM
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07/29/2007, 05:09 PM
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Make sure you see a RL10k prior to buying a set. They do make corals "pop" and growth is good. But the overall color of the tank takes some getting used to and I never could and ended up replacing them. The RL12k's are a good compromise IMO. Good coral color, overall tank appearance, but growth does take a slight hit. I run 250 watt SE Helios 20k on an M80 ballast over my frag tank and like the color. Growth is mediocre to fair. I run 400 watt SE Helios 20k on E-ballasts over my display and growth is much better in 400 watt version. It is not blue like a typical 20k.
Per Sanjay's site M58 (magnatek) ballast RL10k= 70 PPFD RL12k= 45 PPFD Radium = 80 PPFD (on HQI M80 ballast) Helios 20k= 77 PPFD (DE on Ice Cap e-ballast) Reeflux 10k on various ballasts- Blueline e ballast= 82 PPFD / 14953 CCT EVC e ballast= 90 PPFD / 10118 CCT Ice Cap e ballast= 86 PPFD / 15593 CCT PFO M80 HQI= 113 PPFD / 10093 CCT Reef Fanatic e ballast= 94 PPFD / 12242 CCT All that being said, IMHO bulb choice is still very much a personal preferrence. What do you have for supplementation, etc. My order of preference with my E-ballasts (400 watt SE versions) Helios 20k Reeflux 12k AquaConnect 14k's I have never seen, but supposed to be very nice BLV 14k's HTH some. CAReefer
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07/29/2007, 06:00 PM
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AND I HAVE THE PROOF, REEF FLUX RULES, COME OVER ANY TIME AND CHECK IT OUT YOUR SELF, I TRIED ALL BULBS AND VERY HAPPY WITH THE COMBINATION THAT I USE, GOT INFO AND PROOF FROM DADDYJAX AND SANJO LONG TERM PROOF IS ENOUGH FOR ME.I REPLACE BULBS EVERY 6 MONTH, THERE CHEAP AND ALSUME.I GO WITH THE 10K,12K,10K,12K, COMBO 4 400 WATTS BABY.
 THIS IS OVER MY 175 GAL BOW FRONT AND ALSO MY 280 GAL AND MY 144 GAL HALF CIRCLE HAS 2 400 WATTS 10K,12K, COMBO HERE'S THE 175 BOWFRONT THEN THE HALF CIRCLE WITH ATINICS AND WITHOUT ATINICS, LOOK AT THOSE TRUE COLORS BABY.  BOW FRONT  BOWFRONT  BOWFRONT  HALF CIRCLE WITH ATINICS  HALF CIRCLE WITH OUT ATINICS, POINT HERE IS I HAVE ALSOME COLORS WITH OUT THE ATINICS, SO THE ONLY TIME I ENJOY THE ATINICS IS AT NIGHT. HERES A FEW PICS WITH ATINICS AT NIGHT. |
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07/29/2007, 06:12 PM
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PICS WITH ONLY ATINICS
 BOW FRONT  BOW FRONT  MY 280 GALLON IN GARAGE THIS TANK IS THE OLDEST AND HAS SERIUS CORAL COUNT.  BOW FRONT BIG PIECES THERE , PICS DON'T MAKE ANY JUSTICE.  ANOTHER PIECE IN MY 280  THOSE ARE REALY BIG CLAMS MAN. 144 HALF CIRCLE HAS A GOOD VIEW.  144 HALF CIRCLE LOOK AT CLOWNS |
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07/29/2007, 06:24 PM
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AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE CORALS WITH ONLY THE LIGHTS ON, LOOK AT THOSE COLORS BABY,
 144 HALF CIRCLE  144 HALF CIRCLE  144 HALF CIRCLE  144 HALF CIRCLE  THIS 144 HALF CIRCLE CYCLED FOR 1 1/2 YEARS BEFORE i PUT ANY CORALS IN IT,NONE,TALK ABOUT PRESTINE WATER.LOTS OF INVERTS.THEN I GOT THE GIGGER LIGHTS, I HAD THE 48 INCH DUAL 250 WATT WITH ATINICS LIGHT SYSTEM. |
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07/29/2007, 06:38 PM
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 NICE BIG GREEN HAIRY MILLI  THATS A BIG GREEN EFFLO  THATS A BIG NICE EFFLO FROM DADDYJAX  LOOK HOW MANY MY GREEN GERMAN HAS, GOT THIS AS A LITTLE FRAG FROM JOHN AT FAOIS,HAD IT NOW FOR 1 1/2 YEARS FROM A 1 INCH FRAG.  TURAKI IN MY 280 ITS ONE OF MY FAVORITES FROM JOHN AT FAOIS  A BIG CLAM FROM FINZ  PIECES FROM MY 280 IN GARAGE  280 TANK  TAKE NOTICE THE SIZE OF CAP AND THE DAMSELS ARE HUGE |
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07/29/2007, 06:47 PM
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 FAR VIEW OF 280 GAL  280 GAL  280 GAL  280 GAL  280 GAL  280 GAL WITH MY BLENNY  280 GALLON  THIS IDAHO GRAPE MONTI CAP IS CLOGGING MY EVERFLOWS |
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07/29/2007, 06:49 PM
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I GOT LOTS OF REEF TANKS AND TONS OF PICS, I WILL HAVE BETTER PICS WITH NEW BETTER CAMERA . I'M DEFINITLY A CORAL REEF FREAK.
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07/30/2007, 05:36 PM
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07/30/2007, 05:44 PM
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Study this for several months!
http://www.reeflightinginfo.arvixe.c...tcolortemp.php BTW...Laz has the most incredible SPS that I've ever seen.
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07/30/2007, 06:05 PM
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good sight, to bad they don't have all info on rf bulb.
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07/30/2007, 08:51 PM
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Re: Bulb replacement time, what should I go with?
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You need to stay with the 20k XM they are your best chose with the ballast you have .. All the bulb that everyone tell you to use they have terrible output with the mag ballast.
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07/31/2007, 12:24 AM
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Re: Re: Bulb replacement time, what should I go with?
Note: This is a magnetic probe start ballast. It will work with most single ended 250 metal halide bulbs. It will not work with Ushios, Megachrome, Aqualine or double ended bulbs.
just found that online about my ballast, so i guess the Ushio's are out... i do not believe that the 20k XM is my best choice they have 1/2 the PAR as other bulbs on the same ballast, I ran 10k's however they were intense to the point of burning the corals which is why I switched to 20's in the first place, but they are too blue and I lost more growth than I wanted to, now I am looking for a good bulb in the middle of color and growth. Last edited by kozmo02; 07/31/2007 at 12:32 AM. |
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07/31/2007, 07:28 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Bulb replacement time, what should I go with?
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