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Old 07/25/2007, 07:58 PM
BSully BSully is offline
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Metal Halide Too Hot??? Please help...

I have a 55 Gallon tank, I just put a 250W MH w/Icecap ballast in it. But it seems to be too hot for the tank, it melted the plastic cover that goes over the tank. What do I do??

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Old 07/25/2007, 08:52 PM
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Get rid of the plastic cover ...

Are you talking about a clear sheet of plastic that sits in the rim grooves and covers the entire tank? If so, get rid of it. Dont see whay you would need that with a full canopy like you have. Also, you need to vent that canopy with some fans if you havent done so or you may as well call your tank a lobster pot.
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Old 07/25/2007, 08:56 PM
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Thanks yes that's piece I was talking about. Will fans really cool it down that much? I am thinking of getting rid of the light and putting 2 more power compacts, any thoughts?
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Old 07/25/2007, 09:53 PM
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You're not talking about the center brace are you?

If the tank is covered, uncover it.

I don't recommend buying new PC lighting equipment. Money is better spent on T5s.
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Old 07/25/2007, 10:28 PM
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I really want to keep the canopy, what is the best way to cool the hood/tank? Do I need to buy a chiller?
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Old 07/25/2007, 10:35 PM
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I don't mean remove the canopy, I mean remove any cover between the tank and the bulb.

Cooling canopies requires a fan - it looks like yours is open back. You can first add a simple clip-on desk fan to see what effect it has for you.
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Old 07/25/2007, 10:39 PM
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It hasn't melted the actual tank yet, but I can smell it. I'm just worried this light is going to melt the whole tank.
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Old 07/25/2007, 11:21 PM
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lol For one if you have a center brace you can't have a MH right above it.. Two your canopy looks very low.. Mh should be atleast 8" off the water and really when you first upgrade from pcs to Mh it should be much higher..Also Even if your canopy is 11-12" tall your going to need some air movement int he canopy.. Atleast a small 4" fan maybe two..
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Old 07/25/2007, 11:29 PM
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OK, that makes sense. I thought something was wrong with my setup.
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Old 07/25/2007, 11:32 PM
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OK, that makes sense. I thought something was wrong with my setup.
you were right. you need a new canopy or to hang the light
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Old 07/26/2007, 01:38 AM
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yup, that's too low for a MH..
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Old 07/26/2007, 07:39 AM
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This is a little off topic, but I've never understood why MH had to be so high. Seems like a waste of light. Can somebody explain why?

Thanks,

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Old 07/26/2007, 08:57 AM
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Light spread. Metal halide is a point source light. Depending on the reflector, you dont get enough spread throughout the tank without the reflector being raised a minium distance. 6 - 12 " above the surface is a general guideline but 6" is generally too low. If you look at several halide/relector spread patterns you can see that you dont start getting tank wide light spread until the reflector is raised a specific distance over the surface of the tank. So, depends on the reflector and how much area you need to cover (dimensions of tank) but generally 9 - 12" ends up being optimum. On a related note, heat is also a factor. So, if halide needed to be placed 3 or 4" above the tank, it wouldnt work out very well anyway. Any plastic would be toast. Plus, the hot spot (super bright area in the tank underneath the bulb itself) would be way too intense being that close.

Enclosed canopies need to be vented or heat is going to be a major issue.

Bsully ... if your canopy is open back, do like the one poster suggested and get a fan or fans to blow in there. I would set it up so you can kind of circulate the air blowing in on one end on an angle so it can flow back out on the other end of the opening of the canopy. If it is closed back, you need to cut some vent holes and install fans. If the canopy is lower than 6" at a minium, I would not use the halide in there. You probably wont get good enough light spread anyway.
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Old 07/26/2007, 10:04 AM
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Thank you very much DarG, it looks like I am going to have to use different lights, my canopy is not even 6" from the tank.

Anyone want to trade for for PC's, I would like to match the ones I have now, Customsea 65W ....
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Old 07/26/2007, 11:33 AM
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BSully, I think it would probably be a good idea to add two more PC bulbs in there as you were thinking about.
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