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Old 05/24/2007, 01:50 PM
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So we can all learn from this...what exactly is happening in this type of situation? I've had my tank go "milky" from a kalk overdose, resulting in high pH and the precipitation of calcium carbonate, but for the most part that seems to be fairly harmless.

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Old 05/24/2007, 04:09 PM
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I think all the coral slime heavily, then the most vulnerable coral RTN. This puts a lot of organics in the water leading to a bacterial bloom. Once the bacterial bloom kicks in all but the toughest coral are goners, if they aren't already dead.
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Old 05/24/2007, 08:13 PM
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I too agree go after the contractor! My wife is self employed and has over a million dollars just on her self for liability!!! Again, so sorry for your loss but that dude should have known better than to move any plug close to that tank!!!! Pure negligence on his part!

Good luck!
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Old 05/24/2007, 10:41 PM
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You won't believe how poisonous the water became shortly after the crash. Both of my arms has super strong rash and remain super itching for 5 days after digging into the water, trying to safe some surviving corals.

At least I was able to save my giant clam, 2 big green millepora colony and a big yellow green staghorn with purple tip. I took the photo of the mess for some reason.

Thanks for everyone's support.
It is too early to think about giving up since the 1000GL tank is arriving next week.
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Old 05/24/2007, 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by icliao
You won't believe how poisonous the water became shortly after the crash. Both of my arms has super strong rash and remain super itching for 5 days after digging into the water, trying to safe some surviving corals.

At least I was able to save my giant clam, 2 big green millepora colony and a big yellow green staghorn with purple tip. I took the photo of the mess for some reason.

Thanks for everyone's support.
It is too early to think about giving up since the 1000GL tank is arriving next week.
I was just about to ask about the clam - great to know that it survived! I cried when my two maximas died - I had raised them from 1.5" baby clams.
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Old 05/25/2007, 02:00 AM
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I am so sorry. Hopefully, you hired a licensed contractor. They should be bonded for at least a quarter of a million. Indonesia could be different, but I suspect not. In which case, you don't even deal with the contractor, just whoever they are bonded with. Check your paperwork.

One thing you might consider, as well as everyone else, would be to purchase a backup power supply. Get one strong enough for your needs and plug anything the tank would need to survive into it. They are a small investment in the long run. Many also have indicators (lights and sounds) telling you that they have switched to backup power. Spend $500 or lose thousands. Additionally, an automatic backup generator (properly hooked up!!!), is great investment for longer power outages.

Once again, sorry to hear about your tragedy.
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Old 05/25/2007, 07:43 AM
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Sorry abiout your tank, but hey it's only coral, look foward to your new baby
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Old 05/25/2007, 02:56 PM
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Its only coral?

Isn't that along the lines of saying "Ah its only people"?
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Old 05/25/2007, 05:20 PM
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Good Luck with your new setup
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Old 05/25/2007, 08:38 PM
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oh man, so sorry.
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Old 05/25/2007, 08:39 PM
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Man thats a real heart breaker. So sorry for your loss.
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Old 05/26/2007, 10:26 PM
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I am so sorry. Hopefully, you hired a licensed contractor. They should be bonded for at least a quarter of a million. Indonesia could be different, but I suspect not. In which case, you don't even deal with the contractor, just whoever they are bonded with. Check your paperwork.

One thing you might consider, as well as everyone else, would be to purchase a backup power supply. Get one strong enough for your needs and plug anything the tank would need to survive into it. They are a small investment in the long run. Many also have indicators (lights and sounds) telling you that they have switched to backup power. Spend $500 or lose thousands. Additionally, an automatic backup generator (properly hooked up!!!), is great investment for longer power outages.

Once again, sorry to hear about your tragedy.
The way the Indonesian Legal System works is more likely to be markedly different.
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Old 05/27/2007, 12:24 AM
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The way the Indonesian Legal System works is more likely to be markedly different.
I have some family that live just outside of Bang Khla, Thialand. You'd be suprised how similar certain things are there. Some things are even more strictly enforced. I was just basing my statement off that. Certain things are more lax though too.

icliao,
Everyone can't wait to see the new tank. Take lots of pictures of the setup.
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Old 05/27/2007, 11:58 AM
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DEATH TO RENOVATION WORKER!!!!!!!!
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Old 05/27/2007, 12:53 PM
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so sorry to hear about your loss!
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Old 05/27/2007, 01:45 PM
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Oh, that sucks. I hope you at least gave it to the workers so at least they would realize to ask first before next time. Compensation wouldnt bring back the 4 years of coral memory you have. But hopefully they will be mended when the feel of a new tank going up comes in. Take lots of pics when you rebuild. We would love to see them. And of the new frag your wife is working on now.
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Old 05/27/2007, 03:01 PM
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I think someone oughta "unplug" the worker

:cracks knuckles:

oh..it would be suchhhhhh a passionate a** whupping!

So sorry for your loss. Im sure you'll be back and better than ever.
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Old 05/27/2007, 10:43 PM
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Any links to the original thread with pictures?
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Old 05/28/2007, 08:19 AM
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Just gallery pics.
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Old 05/28/2007, 11:45 AM
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Sorry, I hate just losing a shroom.
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Old 06/04/2007, 03:19 PM
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Sorry to hear your loss.

I cried when my 90G tank crashed last year because of my fault, but I come back with vengeance and got myself a 375G tank.
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Old 06/04/2007, 05:23 PM
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Dude, that sucks so bad, I can't believe you haven't come completely unglued.
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Old 06/04/2007, 11:41 PM
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Sorry to hear your loss.

I cried when my 90G tank crashed last year because of my fault, but I come back with vengeance and got myself a 375G tank.
That's true.
My 1000GL's stand is arriving this Thursday. The filter is already set. After that the glass tank measurement can be taken for production. I should be able to have the tank up and running this month. At least I have 3 big colonies and a huge clam to go alone with the 1 - 2 years colonies in my 200GL to start with the big tank. I plan to empty out everything and keep just one big marine aquarium.

I am converting the 500GL into fresh water planted tank this Thursday. The filter and circulation has been modified.
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Old 06/05/2007, 12:06 AM
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ouch!!!!....sorry for you lost
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Old 06/13/2007, 08:36 AM
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Ok, I agree it sucks big time to crash a tank like that...but it's not like the tank exploded or anything--sounds like all the equipment is still in working order. The only things that were lost were sea life. I know this is a big enough deal for us reefing folk, but what would it really mean to the average Indonesian? Odds are even if you got some insurance money for the ordeal, it wouldn't be much. All they would pay for was the inhabitants, and I'm guessing corals are pennies on the dollar in Indonesia compared to here.
The real tradgedy here is the loss of coral life--and no amount of money will bring them back.
 


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