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  #176  
Old 11/27/2005, 11:48 PM
NicoleC NicoleC is offline
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Congratulations and best of luck to all three of you!

I always feel a sense of both excitement and let down when bringing a fish out of QT. There really is something to be said for the kind of careful attention and closeness you get with just a fish or two in a small QT.

Parasite and disease issues aside, the quiet QT time really seems to help the fish out, plus it's a good time to train them to eat whatever foods you're going to serve them in whatever manner. (Hand feed, feeding station, broadcast feeding, etc.)
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Old 11/27/2005, 11:55 PM
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I like how the LTA is two different colors in those pictures. I like the bottom one better.

Congrats on releasing your babies into their new home. Time for me to find some other cause to fight for now. Charlie and Lucy are free at last.
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Old 11/27/2005, 11:59 PM
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Thanks everyone! I had this bad feeling I am going to go clown nuts and get another pair soon. I am now getting the idea of turning the garage into my fish room and get into breeding.

Marc, the bottom pic is true to it's color. The first one the flash hit the glass all funky.
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Old 11/28/2005, 12:05 AM
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Who needs a garage anyway......it is not like you need to park your car in there on snowy days

My vote - convert the garage!!

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Old 11/28/2005, 12:20 AM
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Good point Kelly! I just need to figure out how to keep it cool in there and I think I will do it.
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Old 11/28/2005, 12:29 AM
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I just bought a portable free standing air conditioner unit (on wheels) this summer for my basement as it was like a rain forest down there.

Wow - what a difference!

I bought mine at Sam's Club. I also saw them at Home Depot.

A second vote for a garage fish room

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Old 11/28/2005, 01:57 AM
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That was one of the recommendations for my garage, a portable air unit. Which would be a side benefit to keep the whole garage cool so that my other freezer and fridge wouldn't work so hard.

I guess I better start a thread about this endeavor soon.
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Old 11/28/2005, 12:36 PM
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I just bought a portable free standing air conditioner unit (on wheels) this summer for my basement as it was like a rain forest down there.

Kelly
A free standing unit could only be a fan or an evaporative cooler. The only real "Free standing" air conditioners are window units. (or thru wall)

The evaporative cooler works in direct conflict with any refrigeration unit and they should never be run together in the same environment at the same time.

No refrigeration unit can cool until it removes the moisture from the air. Evaporative units by the principal they work on, put a ton of moisture in the air. So it must be 1 or the other. A free standing refer unit would be an exercise in futility as it would have cold air out one side (evaporator side) and superheated air out the other (condenser side) and actually would have a net result of heating the air.
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Old 11/28/2005, 12:40 PM
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Randall James,

The unit has an exhaust fan/hose (long length) that is vented to the outside. It has a bucket to catch the water - I connected it to a hose & have it drain into the basement floor sump.

It is a great unit & can be moved if needed. I'll try to take/post a picture when I get home from work.

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Old 11/28/2005, 12:56 PM
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ok well that makes it workable then. Sure sounded funny as a free standing refer unit I would imagine the shorter you can keep that hotside hose the better.

Now is that hot hose actually 2 hoses? in/out (split hose) or are they robbing some of your interior air to cool the condensor? (would mean we are now working in a negative pressure room)
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Old 11/28/2005, 12:59 PM
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One thick hose vented to outside. Since adding the unit in my basement which houses 2700 gallons of saltwater, my electric bill is less & my upstairs in not an "ice chest" any more .

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Old 11/28/2005, 02:29 PM
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Please do post a picture if you can Kelly. I'd like to see it.
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Old 11/28/2005, 03:32 PM
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If you are running refrigeration upstairs, and the humdity from downstairs is getting up there, you are working your system double overtime. Just venting the humidity alone would reduce your electric bill.

The only other part is if the unit is exausting air from the room, where is the makeup air coming from?
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Old 11/28/2005, 04:24 PM
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I do have muffin fans to vent, doors & dehumidifiers. I monitor my humidity (monitors on all 3 floors) closely as well.

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Old 11/28/2005, 05:26 PM
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You know, better to start a new thread about this. I don't want this one to get sidetracked.

Thanks!
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Old 11/28/2005, 06:49 PM
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Hey there Amy! Looking great! Glad to hear they went in okay.

I think we need a full tank shot
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Old 11/29/2005, 12:00 AM
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Thanks Jordan! I'll try to get a whole tank shot this week.

*saw the Goblet of Fire last night, awesome!*
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Old 11/29/2005, 03:00 PM
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I think that's a great idea Dudester. I might try that next time. What are you able to keep your pH at?
My pH has been quite stable at 8.2-8.3 (Salifert). My display tank is in the same range, so I'm expecting a similarly simple transition from QT to DT.

still working on those pics for ya
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Old 11/29/2005, 03:39 PM
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Good to hear. I think I should try that next time!

I guess we are both going to have to work on pictures. I need to get some better ones of the whole tank and of C&L in their beloved clay pot.
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Old 11/30/2005, 02:54 PM
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Wow! A lot of good information here.. thks
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Old 11/30/2005, 04:28 PM
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Amy, since this is a "100" level course, could you specify exactly how much bleach you used when washing out your tank and equipment? I would guess you don't need much at all. Would vinegar be an acceptable substitute?
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Old 12/03/2005, 02:08 AM
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Thanks Sohal11!

Dudester - Sorry about the delay. I used a 4:1 water to bleach. I used bleach because it's an disinfectant, I do not believe vinegar would do the same. I might be going overboard cleaning everything with bleach but it's a safety measure I don't mind taking and is easy enough to do.
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Old 12/03/2005, 02:21 AM
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Amy,

I have been accused of being "wasteful" with bleach. I use a lot of bleach & bleach everything !

My motto - a little is good but more is better

I agree with Amy - vinegar does not kill bacteria/parasites/human skin/sponges like bleach.

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Old 12/03/2005, 09:39 AM
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vinegar can actually feed some bacteria..
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Old 12/06/2005, 01:12 PM
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Thanks for the bleach vs. vinegar info. I just took down my QT 2 nights ago and I'll give it the 'ol bleach treatment tonight.

As promised, here are some pics of my percs (not trying to hijack, just honoring my word). This first one shows my current lonely guy (soon to be girl) living in the display tank. The resolution's a little too low but you might be able to see lesions of lymphocystis on his tail. This was shot about 3 weeks ago and the lesions are now totally gone!



This next one is the juvenile who hopefully will become male and mate with the above.



You can see he didn't skip too many meals

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