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View Poll Results: Flame Angel: Reef Safe?
Probably safe!!! 33 58.93%
DON"T DO IT!!! 23 41.07%
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Old 10/17/2007, 02:06 PM
SUPERHERO2943 SUPERHERO2943 is offline
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Question Flame angel - Reef Safe???

I know that as a general rule no angel is really the best choice for a reef. However I have also heard that of the Dwarf Angels the Flame and the Coral Beauty are the best bets. Has anyone had any experience with a Flame Angel in a reef? Any nipping??? Just looking for some other peoples opinions on the subject.
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Old 10/17/2007, 02:23 PM
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There hit or miss imo. I have a rock beauty in my reef and he is a perfect citizen. I've never seen him pick at anything ever. In over 1.5yrs.
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Old 10/17/2007, 02:26 PM
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I had a flame angel that ATE, not nipped my LPS. YMMV
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Old 10/17/2007, 02:28 PM
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Thats not good. I just love the splash of color a flame angel offers to a tank. BUT not at the price of my corals well being.
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Old 10/17/2007, 02:37 PM
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Mine nipped on many corals. He kept my tubastrea and dendrophylia closed-up all day, and would never allow xenia to open, thus killing them. He was a beautiful fish. Great colors! But he had to go. Those corals have done well since.
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Old 10/17/2007, 02:43 PM
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I have a friend who just bought one and I will post his experience when he lets me know how he is doing.
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Old 10/17/2007, 02:51 PM
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I learned in psychology that if an animal (or human being for that matter) eats something then feels nauseous afterward (caused by a foreign chemical),even if you go so far as to separate the animal from the tank and then administer the chemical, the animals (or humans) body will still associate that thing or food that it ate with nauseousness and then will no longer eat it. They have used this method on humans(chemotherapy they give them candy or ice cream before) and with wolves by putting nauseating supplements in killed lambs thus reducing the amount of killed lambs by 60 percent.

I know that there are risks involved with the idea that the animal might stop eating in general, I don't absolutely know, but I am wondering if it has ever been tried. If it is possible for the fish industry to do this I think it could dramatically change natural tendencies without damaging the fish.
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Old 10/17/2007, 03:27 PM
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Fish Psychology!!! Amazing!!!
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Old 10/17/2007, 03:35 PM
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Mine nipped on many corals. He kept my tubastrea and dendrophylia closed-up all day, and would never allow xenia to open, thus killing them. He was a beautiful fish. Great colors! But he had to go. Those corals have done well since.
If you had a flame angel with a taste for xenia and sold it I would certianly hope you got at least $300 for the fish.


Put that bad boy on ebay, see how high it goes.
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Old 10/17/2007, 03:37 PM
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I have a marshal island Flame angle in my 46BF and I have had it for about 4 or 5 months now with SPS, LPS, softies, and a clam and it has never picked at anything other then algae. I feed it and my other fish one of the following about once every other day or two: frozen mysis shrimp, formula one flake, or Marine S pellets.

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Old 10/17/2007, 03:37 PM
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2 angels in my mixed reef. Rusty angel and female watanabi angel. Neither have caused me grief. My next pygmy will be a flame when/if the rusty dies.
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Old 10/17/2007, 03:43 PM
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My flame never bothered anything.
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Old 10/17/2007, 04:23 PM
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My flame hasn't touched anything in the two weeks I have had it and I have LPS and zoos.
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Old 10/17/2007, 04:27 PM
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Have a flame for 9 months and other then just a bit of tail chasing he's been a model citizen. No nipping whatsoever.
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Old 10/17/2007, 05:03 PM
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mine nipped if he wasnt fed twice a day
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Old 10/17/2007, 05:10 PM
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mine never bothers sps
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Old 10/17/2007, 05:48 PM
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Mine was fine at first and then learned to start nipping after seeing another fish doing it. They were both evicted...
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Old 10/18/2007, 03:20 AM
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I used to have one that liked to nip at my candycane.
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Old 10/18/2007, 11:44 AM
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If you keep it well fed it would keep it from nipping your corals, i have one, its a hit or miss kind of thing.
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Old 10/18/2007, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
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If you keep it well fed it would keep it from nipping your corals,
Not mine. He was definitely well fed.
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Old 10/18/2007, 01:53 PM
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Not mine. He was definitely well fed.
I agree. From what I've read it looks like there are some that just aquire a taste for corals and once they do its all over.
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Old 10/18/2007, 03:27 PM
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I've kept both a flame and a coral beauty in a 55 mixed reef (though not at the same time!). The flame was a model citizen and never bothered anything. The coral beauty bit the heads off of all of the xenia in the tank- not my idea of a good reef citizen. As others have said, I think it really comes down to the individual personality (and culinary tastes!) of these species; some will behave, some will wreck havoc.
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Old 10/18/2007, 04:40 PM
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i had a flame and never ever nip any type of corals, Soft,LPS,zoo.... Shame was killed in a spike in my tank the chillier broke down and the temp. went to 95 F because of my MH.. well that part of this hobby
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Old 10/19/2007, 10:25 PM
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Mine is a model citizen with clams, LPS, SPS.
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