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Old 12/26/2003, 01:52 AM
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getting Powder blue tang to eat

i just bought a powder blue tang.. this is the 3rd day.. and this fish is not eating and have ich...

what i did was.. i took some garlic and throw it inside the filter...

i feed with garlic soaked food... but the problem now is... this fish dont eat...

i have try this marine algae... brine shrimp ... mysis shrimp...

this fish just dont eat.... what can i do now???

what i know is when fish dont eat... 70% going to join the graveyard army...

what can i do now??? now i believe my water.. is full of garlic... and i can smell it... i have 1 yellow tang also started to develop ich.. but this fish is eating.. and 3 of my clown fish is also eating.. just this powder blue dont eat....

here my water parameter...

120 gallon tank

ammonia 0
nitrite 0
ph 8
nitrate <20

temperature 27.5 degree celcius
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Old 12/26/2003, 02:40 AM
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Have you tried live brine shrimp? A cockle meat on the half shell might work, too.

I assume you didn't quarantine the new tang. There is a very good chance that the "Ich" will spread to all the fish. Quarantining new fish is good because you avoid infecting your main tank and other fish with disease and parasites but also, it is much easier to get a single fish feeding when it is in a tank on its own.

It is likely that if you don't treat the two tangs they will die from the "Ich". You may need to treat the clowns, too, to ensure they don't carry parasites. I recommend hyposalinity, but it needs to be performed in a separate treatment tank. If you treat all the fish and leave the main tank without fish, the "Ich" will die off after around 4 weeks.

See: Marine "Ich" and Hyposalinity.
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Old 12/26/2003, 12:53 PM
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I only tried frozen brine shrimp... and this tang dont even bother to look at it.. just swim around...

hope tomorrow and is is the 4 th day he will start eating...
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Old 12/26/2003, 12:56 PM
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another problem is i cant really get this fish...

this tang is a good swimmer i will say....

whenever i try to catch it... it swim to another area... worst part is he hide between my live rock... and i could not really get it...

what i did was .. i add some garlic into my filter system.... and dropping some blue medicine... LFS introduce to me...

so far it is a reef safe product....
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Old 12/26/2003, 02:00 PM
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Try using a second net to drive the fish into your main net. Takes some practice but when done right works like charm.
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Old 12/26/2003, 03:59 PM
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Garlic in the water won't help at all - an may make things worse. The blue liquid was probably methylene blue or malachite green. Neither are reef safe and neither are effective for "Ich".
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Old 12/26/2003, 10:08 PM
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i was told by my LFS that malachite green is effection... repeat after other day...

he told me that this is reef safe products..

this morning i cant find my powder blue ... wondering is he die? or my dad had taken away the dead body..
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Old 12/26/2003, 10:43 PM
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Malachite Green is not reef safe. It will kill any and all inverts. It has the same effect that copper does. I would suggest not listening to your lfs very much or take it with a grain of salt. If he still isn't out there is a good chance he didn't make it. Hope he did but if he didn't sorry for your loss. Anyway, hope this helps.
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Old 12/26/2003, 11:41 PM
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I think your LFS is getting confused between freshwater and marine "Ich". Malachite green combined with formalin can be effective for the treatment of freshwater "Ich". It is NOT effective for the treatment of marine "Ich". While freshwater and marine "Ich" are superficially similar, they are completely different parasites.

It is worth noting that malachite green is a respiratory poison and is suspected of causing cancer. You should only use it with extreme care - although it is of little value in a marine aquarium.
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Old 12/27/2003, 12:02 AM
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one of yellow tang has white spot already... so what i did was.. i get a pail of water from my tank... and put in air stone... and small dosage of copper... and i leave my yellow tang inside for treatment...

is this ok?

cause i dont have other extra tank.. so i only can get a small pail of salt water... and left my yellow tang inside for treatment..
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Old 12/27/2003, 12:29 AM
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Unfortunately, you won't be able to effectively treat a fish for "Ich" with copper in a pail for a number of reasons.

1) Tangs are quite sensitive to copper. If you must use copper, use something like Seachem's Cupramine.

2) Copper treatment must be continued for at least 14 days, although 21 days will be better. You will have a lot of difficulties keeping a fish for that long in a pail with no biological filtration.

3) Care must be taken to maintain the correct copper level for the full term of the treatment. If it gets too low, it won't kill the parasites. If it gets too high, it will kill the fish.

I have already recommended hyposalinity which is not only effective for the treatment of "Ich", but is much safer on the fish. To do this - or copper treatment - you will need to set up another treatment tank.
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Old 12/27/2003, 12:44 AM
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now this fish lose its appetite... dont eat...

i have remove my yellow tang from the pail... and left it inside my tank.. using a basket to seperate it from my other fishes...

hope this will help...
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Old 12/27/2003, 03:59 AM
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I don't know what you hope the basket will do, but it won't stop the other fish from becoming infected and it will only stress the tang more, making it less likely to survive.
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