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09/17/2007, 11:54 PM
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Poor unsung accountants. Seriously though, I'm incredibly grateful to have the "other Jim" as BARs accountant. And he's building an electric Porsche 914 and is a huge solar power advocate! How cool is that? Getting to know my fellow BOD members has been a very rewarding part of being in the club for me. I suggest that anyone looking for a very involved relationship with BAR and its members would find the BOD experience very rewarding... As i have.-Jim |
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09/18/2007, 01:06 AM
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We did realize that these 2 changes can easily be perceived as unfair, particularly to people new to the club, the hobby or both. I hope people will read this explanation (I know! it's a million words!!)and gain some insight about this particular set of decisions. I think it's hard to understand decisions without context, so I'll let you in on some of the general BOD thought that went into this. Live coral, whether wild or captivated, is a very precious form of life on this planet (we're all reefers right, this part is obvious). Maintaining live coral in captivity is extremely energy intensive. even if you never get a single piece of wild coral, your carbon footprint is larger as a hobbyist. There is a responsibility, as an individual, to try and do your best for the animal. The individuals on the BOD have this responsibility, a responsibility to The Mission Statement (read it sometime, it took forever to write!), to the current members, potential members, sponsors etc... So, in light of the multiple responsibilities, is the swap doing its thing as "right" as possible. If "right' means getting the most frags out to the most people then yes, the old regional swaps were perfect events. But I, and I believe the entire BOD, believe that this is only the beginning of what we're calling "responsible propagation", or "coral parenting" which is much closer to really getting it right! For example, tracking the BAR purchased corals this year is just the beginning of a more "responsible" slant to the club activities. Yes, people will have to be in the community for a while now before they can pick in the "general" swap, but not all BAR corals are distributed through the swaps and many of the best are given freely in our fabulous Don't Break The Chain Program. http://www.bareefers.org/discussion/...php?board=17.0 I must say that I've never, ever heard someone who joined BAR say anything negative about our Community's generosity. Thanks for your post, it helped me pull some thoughts together on this.-Jim 
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09/18/2007, 01:45 AM
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Thanks for the kind and supportive comments. No apologies necessary. As far as helping out, even reading and posting on our forums, and speaking up to help others understand what BAR is about would count 
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09/18/2007, 01:48 AM
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Next you'll be teaching everybody the secret handshake
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09/18/2007, 01:39 PM
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I gotta give my hats (er helmet) for the great work they've done also. Not everyones been with this club for as long as some of these guys have but the club has come a VERY long way and it took a lot of work. I have to admit I haven't done as much as I could but I do enjoy and appreciate the work that went into it. And a whole year without any political fall out! Amazing! The team seems to be firing on all pistons now!
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09/21/2007, 06:07 PM
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Okay, Ive read this now and am totally lost. So you stated the you must be up to date with membership due's and also attend a meeting (Which I am very interested in Oct.'s meeting) you can not be part of the annual frag swap in Feb. 08?
I think it's fair to say if you're not a member maybe a month's in advance and have nothing to bring to the swap, but 4+ month's out seems to be a little to far out. My belief's of our group is to promote friends and families to join our group, but now they can't join in a BAR frag swap until 09, why would they want to join us now instead of waiting until this time next year to join our group. Other group's on RC invite people that ae paart of any group to attend their swap's. Not trying to stur anything, I love BAR and all the people part of this group, I have learned so many things from everyone and will continue to be a memeber again even if I can't join in the swapping as I missed the date, but just had to put my two cents in. |
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09/21/2007, 06:30 PM
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You can attend the swap for raffles and other items, but actually participating in the swap you would be ineligible. This is actually the 2nd swap we have had with this format ( without the must attend 1 meeting). The one in August was just like this as well. Come in the Feb too and let us know what you think.
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09/21/2007, 06:32 PM
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09/21/2007, 10:35 PM
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The swap in Feb '08 will be 1 of 2 swaps BAR will host in 2008. I will be pushing for "current BAR membership as of last swap to participate in the next BAR swap" as the pre-requisite moving forward. I hope this answers the question of why someone might want to join now, or at least by February, even if they can't pick at the February swap. As far as what's fair and whether BAR should invite people that are part of any group at all to our club swaps; I should just say that BAR is governed by the written by-laws and Mission Statement as interpreted by the current BOD. If you'd like to be involved in our decision making, you're welcome to attend BOD meetings, give us input on how we're doing on the bareefers.org site or better yet, volunteer to help out or run for the BOD. We do actually invite the public to 4 out of 6 of our yearly meetings. -Jim |
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09/21/2007, 10:44 PM
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And to answer your first question: in order to pick during the general picking rounds in the BAR members only swap in Feb. '08 you must:
Have been a paid member as of 9/12/07 and also at the time of the Feb '08 swap. Have attended 1 general or BOD meeting between 9/12/07 and the Feb. '08 swap. Bring at least 2 different captive propagated frags to the Feb. '08 swap. There will be no "buy-ins" and this swap is for BAR members only. Family memberships are entitled to 2 positions at the swap but each participating family member must meet the 2 different frag requirement (although 2 members of the same family might have the same 2 different frags). |
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09/22/2007, 01:11 AM
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Thanks for clearing all that up for me (and hopefully anyone else that got cofused). I'm trying to open my day up for next month's event. It sounds very interesting and I'd love to meet up with more BAR memeber's so I can put faces to the names.
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09/22/2007, 10:25 AM
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We invented the format that's being used in the upcoming regional swap. BAR... we're so bleeding edge... always trying to improve how we doing things, no matter how much it hurts
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09/22/2007, 10:54 AM
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I love this group and BAR has a great crew running the club. I try to make the hour and 45 minute trip as often as I can for these meetings.
It's well worth it join, whether you can attend the swap or not
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09/24/2007, 05:18 PM
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You can always join up. For this coming feb swap, I am sorry to say no. You can attend to watch and join the raffle, etc...
We are still debating on when the next open regional BAR swap will be. They were getting a little big to handle in our little meeting room.
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