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09/29/2005, 07:02 AM
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It appears certain species of angler are much more prone to color changes than others and I suspect the ability varies between individuals as well. Unless you have the right environment to support a brightly colored sponge, my advice is not to try to go that route. It is unfair to the sponge and possibly problematic to your water quality if the sponge starts dying. I've thought about trying some of the new brightly colored artificial corals that are now for sale to see if I could encourage a color change. If your angler is like mine, he'll rotate ambush positions throughout the day, so you'd want all his favorite spots to be the same color you were trying to encourage for your best shot at a color change. Tank background can matter as well. My juvenile went from bright red to dark black quite rapidly because he was being held in a small critter keeper inside my 180, right up against the black back wall.
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09/29/2005, 07:04 AM
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 I'm curious why you believe a frogfish tank should be "tall."
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09/29/2005, 12:10 PM
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Reefcherie,
I guess I wouldn't want to overemphasize the tall tank theory because it is anecdotal, but after keeping my pictus in several tanks I found that he seemed to like the tall tank the most. One consideration for me was that because he needed his own tank, the tall offered more useable room for him as I found he moved up and down the vertical coral/ rockwork. When in a standard type tank he seemed to move around less. I'm assuming that moving around is a good thing here and since I couldn't ask him, I'm guessing that he enjoyed the tall better. He also fed more readily in the tall but that could be for any number of other factors. Clearly a large tank is not needed as Meatball never lived in a tank larger than 5 gallons except for the experimental period that he lived in my reef. This was an expensive experiment that my ornamental shrimp would have rather not experienced. Actually I'm sure that was Meatballs favorite home untill he ran out of shrimp. |
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10/07/2005, 06:07 AM
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Awesome! I haven't seen that species before and am out of town so no access to Scott Michael's book...how big do they get? I heard there is a dwarf frogfish that lives in Hawaii and am wondering if this is it.
How big is it now?
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10/07/2005, 10:14 AM
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The Dwarf Hawaiian frogfish is usually Antennarius randalli. It gets to about 3 cm long and its most prominent characteristic is that its second spine is connected to the dorsal by a membrane. I've never seen one for sale.
Antennatus tuberosus is pretty rare too. I tried to get one out of a Canadaidn LFS but the paperwork was too involved. This one came in as a pair bit I lost the other. It has a much wider range than the Randalls frog but is very uncommon and usually found at depths (this one was collected at 120 ft). The tuberculated frogfish gets to about 3" and is characterised by a minimal or absent esca. He is in a 5 gal minibow, 75ºF, sal 30 (1.022), pH 8, 25% w/c weekly, HOB filter with polyfilter, phosban, and de-nitrate. He eats a few ghost shrimp twice weekly. Fishbase |
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10/25/2005, 09:42 PM
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10/26/2005, 06:30 AM
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Wild coloration! I wonder what that guy was trying to blend in with?!
You put the two tuberosa's together? How do you do that and know you won't get one attempting to eat the other one? Do you just wait and watch closely or do you have some kind of a divided tank at first and look for signs that they will get along?
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10/26/2005, 08:54 AM
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They are in separate systems and solitary. The orange fellow is about an inch and a half long, the brown guy is about two inches. I actually bought two orange Antennatus; they were caught together, supposedly a pair. One didn't make the shipping process.
Froggies from Genus Antennatus don't really make nice show animals. They are very cryptic and reclusive. I have had good results keeping other frogfishes together but they need to be the same size and species group, closely observed ... and regularly fed. Don't recommend it for most people. I tracked down a copy of Frogfishes of the World , by Pietsch and Grobecker ... bought it as a birthday present for myself ... yay! Unfortunately had to spend a bundle on it ... but worth it.
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10/26/2005, 12:01 PM
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Ok, so did you ever get one of those frogfish pillows? 
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10/26/2005, 06:38 PM
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I just got my hands on that same book. Although mine is just from the school library. Though its just like owning it, I get 21 days before I renew it and I can renew it 10 times. Thats the better part of a year for free. I checked and the book hasnt been checked out since 1992! Anyway, good luck with your frogs.
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10/28/2005, 09:27 PM
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Steve said he doesn't believe in charging outrageous angler prices. He'll be open to trades for cool stuff too. He's turning the front display tank into an angler tank. Right now he has a striatus, a yellow and purple maculatus, and a gray green commerson's(or possibly pictus)... couldn't get a ray count. Told him he'd better be careful of which anglers he keeps together. Uber, Cherie, you guys gotta go talk anglers with Steve. He's all into it. He'll like hearing about your experiences. |
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10/29/2005, 02:45 AM
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10/29/2005, 04:49 AM
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Cherie,
www.newalameda.com/newcontact.htm www.newalameda.com Steve is the owner. He's not doing much with the website. Don't let that fool you though
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10/29/2005, 07:09 AM
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Looks like about an hour drive for me. Thanks! When I'm headed up that direction anyway, I'll plan a trip there.
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10/29/2005, 10:37 AM
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Cherie, I think Steve will be hosting a frag swap at his store late November. That would be a great time for you to come up and hang out if you're not up sooner. If Uber shows up that would be cool. Would be fun to turn it into a frogfish fan club gathering
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11/18/2005, 06:55 AM
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OMG what a cutie! Did you get another one?
BTW - I love your avatar! 
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11/18/2005, 10:08 AM
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But they're kind of delicate. I just lost the orange one. He had polybag burn on his jaw from transit and the infection kept growing. I had been prophylactically treating with the old standards: formalin dips, metronidazole, nitrofurazone; these seem to knock out incoming crypto, amyloodinium, and any bad bacteria. But some recent research has indicated that frogfishes may harbor dormant strains of Mycobacterium marinum and Vibrio sp. A lot of frogfish losses within the first few days point to massive bacterial infection. I have recently acquired some rifampin and levofloxacin but I think that I wont use these until an infection is actually diagnosed. |
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11/18/2005, 11:47 AM
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