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Old 07/20/2004, 10:30 AM
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Help ID these new clowns
Hi!

Can anyone help ID these new clowns? I bought them from my LFS but the employees there did not know what kind of clowns these were.

This is the smaller one:
I have no idea what type of clown...he has unusual markings.



This is the bigger one:
I think (S)he may be a Clarkii.


Thanks for the help!

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Old 07/20/2004, 11:52 AM
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The first one is a juvenile clarkii. They will have that white mark on the tail and as it matures it will slowly fade away. The second fish is also a clarkii. Great looking fish!
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Old 07/20/2004, 02:38 PM
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I'd have to disagree on the ID of the first one. my juvi clarkii didn't look a thing like that when I bought it. I got it about a year ago at just around 3/4". It looked just like the guy in the bottom shot and still does, just 3" now. Vicious as hell too.

could be a dusky tail, allard's or a sebae?
http://www.cincyreef.com/Articles/Cl...h_GregDoug.php
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Old 07/20/2004, 02:54 PM
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Both are A. clarkii
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Old 07/20/2004, 04:11 PM
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Clarkii.
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Old 07/20/2004, 06:36 PM
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Not an A. Sebae. They don't have white on their caudal fins.
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Old 07/20/2004, 06:40 PM
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Thanks for everyone's input. The people at the LFS don't really know as much as they should. I was thinking both were Clarkii -- the smaller one being a juvenile that would grow up and change colors but I was not 100% confident in my assessment and took the risk.

Thanks!
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Old 07/21/2004, 06:35 PM
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the 1st one looks kinda like it could be an Allardi...
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Old 07/21/2004, 09:12 PM
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I agree with the first being an Allardi. looks stikingly similar:



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Old 07/21/2004, 09:24 PM
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IMO both are Clarkiis because the body just screams Clarkii.
You don't even see Allardis on wholesale lists; and it would be like striking the lottery to find an Allardi or a Sebae at a LFS.
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Old 07/21/2004, 09:39 PM
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but check out the patterns on the tail, the second caudal fin, the bar patterns, and the face. mabye he did strike the lottery.
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Old 07/21/2004, 10:08 PM
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Did I strike the lottery?!?!!?

Oh cool, I just liked the look of the little guy and there was NO OTHER fish in all the tanks that looked like him at all...I was inspecting ALL of the clowns and there were a lot.

Is he worth some dough??!?!?

LOL, I'd better take really good care of him!
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Old 07/22/2004, 03:31 PM
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slickchick, both of your clowns are A. clarkii.

Mr. Jingles, your comparison picture is a juvi. A. chrysogaster, not an allardi.
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Old 07/22/2004, 05:26 PM
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slickchick, both of your clowns are A. clarkii.

Mr. Jingles, your comparison picture is a juvi. A. chrysogaster, not an allardi.
Agreed on both statements.
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Old 07/22/2004, 08:53 PM
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the first juvenile clown in the 2nd set of pictures that is said to be an Allardi, is actually a Chrysogaster I believe.
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Old 07/22/2004, 09:42 PM
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with all this false info on web sites, how can one tell?
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Old 07/22/2004, 10:11 PM
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Welcome to RC, Jingles! There are more than 60 000 users on this site, lots of regulars on Anemone and Clownfish Forum
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Old 07/23/2004, 09:45 PM
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hi
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Old 07/24/2004, 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by Mr.Jingles
with all this false info on web sites, how can one tell?
Mr. Jingles,

One of the best way to ID clownfish is to know the geographical origin, for certain.

Then to have personally seen many many specimens to get used to the multiple variations of each species.

When it comes down to an ID of the less common, expect some "discussion", especially in the clarkii complex.

For what it is worth, MarinaP would have nixed the 'gaster ID if it was incorrect, she has a colony of the little guys to compare the photo against

Net of the whole thing, take most of the ID's with a grain of salt, but there are about 20 folks or so running around this forum that you can count on to ID based on more then photos. btw: I am not one of them
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Old 07/24/2004, 09:10 AM
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Mr. Jingles, Hi.

Here's a real good site filled with good identification tools and pictures: http://wish.wodonga.tafe.edu.au/~kwaldon/species.htm
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Old 07/24/2004, 10:02 PM
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Re: Help ID these new clowns
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Originally posted by slickchick
Can anyone help ID these new clowns?
Amphiprion clarkii

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Spec...esname=clarkii
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