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View Poll Results: What hard to find angel do you have
Bandit Angel 3 2.54%
Golden Pygmy Angel 3 2.54%
Colins Angel 6 5.08%
Hotumatuas Angel 0 0%
Interuptus Angel 9 7.63%
Joculator Angel 2 1.69%
Resplendent Angel 8 6.78%
Venustus Angel 3 2.54%
Blueline Angel 3 2.54%
Chrysurus Angel 5 4.24%
Conspicillatus Angel 9 7.63%
Multicolor Angel 7 5.93%
Peppermint Angel 49 41.53%
Kingi Angel 11 9.32%
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Old 05/11/2006, 07:52 PM
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no bellus huh?
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Old 05/11/2006, 08:49 PM
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achillesheel- what do you mean?

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Old 05/11/2006, 09:53 PM
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I guess the thing the that intrigues me about the similarities between the clipperton and st paul angels is that both those localities are very isolated. It is conceivable to imagine that the clipperton island angels are the result of a few individuals or a small population of clarions or passers which became isolated in clipperton island and inbred to become the species we recognize today. The similar color forms of st pauls queens lends credence to this idea.

here are some gratuitous images for you to enjoy.

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Old 05/11/2006, 09:56 PM
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once you get to a certain level of rare, the only thing left to seek out is either mated pairs or natural hybrids. I am particularly a fan of the latter as they can vary greatly in appearance and so many hybrid individuals are more one-of-a-kind than the rarest of angels species.

blueface majestic hybrid
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Old 05/11/2006, 10:02 PM
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personifer conspic hybrid

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Old 05/11/2006, 10:03 PM
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potter flame hybrid
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Old 05/11/2006, 10:05 PM
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flagfin goldflake hybrid

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Old 05/11/2006, 10:35 PM
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Jake- Do you know how much the personifer conspic hybrid went for? I assume most of these hybrids go to Japan?

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Old 05/12/2006, 12:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mark
Reminds me that I still think the juvenile stage of chevron tangs is to mimic potters. Not identical, but perhaps evolution in progress.
Potters angels and chevron tangs look very different from each other underwater. Their behaviours aren't anything alike, either.
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Old 05/12/2006, 07:36 AM
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nbd,

I suspect that at least the last three hybrids have been imported to Japan. See the web of a shop in Tokyo, and here is a photo of a hybrid angel sold there.

http://www.reef-kuki.com/fishandshrimps1.html
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Old 05/12/2006, 07:49 AM
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if you look on page three of reef kuki you can actually see the original image of the conspic hybrid. They also had this image of a fisher flame hybrid

and I think the image Tanaka wanted us to see is the lemonpeel hybrid
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Old 05/12/2006, 07:54 AM
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this is an image of a supposed hybrid between an emperor and a koran
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Old 05/12/2006, 08:29 AM
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coralite,
The last one is great; I have never seen such a fish !
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Old 05/12/2006, 05:51 PM
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More random images of oddities for your enjoyment, unfortunately these are all dead

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Old 05/15/2006, 05:46 AM
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I returned home last night; I took over 70 photos at one shop. I could not have seen any rare or unusual but some interesting species/ specimens to me. The shop seems one of the greatest one in Saitama Prefecture, just north of Tokyo, and I could see so many exotic butterflyfishes, angelfishes, anthias, wrasses, gobies, etc. in some hunfred tanks.

Here is a small, 3cm long Centropyge joculator with a small black spot on dorsal fin. It now seems not-rare fish in the aquarium trade but I think that such a small one cannot be seen so often.

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Old 05/15/2006, 06:24 AM
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Welcome back, Hiroyuki. Did you get up to BORABORA?
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Old 05/15/2006, 07:19 AM
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Hi, Thanks.
No, unfortunayely I had no time to go Bora Bora; some three hours were needed to visit the B-Box aquarium in Saitama and ruturned to Tokyo. I could have enjoyed the B-Box so much and asked them to send several specimens of wrasses that would reach me tomorrow or on Wednesday.

Here is another shot in B-Box; one of the many tanks with a bunch of colorful live corals.

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Old 05/15/2006, 08:24 AM
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I finally found the coral pages on B-Box. Now I have pages of new reasons to spend money.
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Old 05/15/2006, 08:56 PM
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This is a 3cm long juvenile Centropyge multicolor with a black spot on dorsal fin at B-Box Aquarium.

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Old 06/19/2006, 10:21 AM
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hmmm guess im wondering if any new headway has been made and maybe more pics to be added

lets bring back the dead
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Old 06/20/2006, 05:22 PM
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Interesting thread .... some updates for you:

The Waikiki Aquarium has displayed the following rare/endemic fish species, some of which were considered rare or a new species at the time:

* = currently on display

Griffith's Angel
Goldflake Angel
Hotomatua angel
Chaetodon litus
Chaetodon smithi *
Chaetodon tinkeri *
Centropyge aurantia *
Centropyge colini *
Centropyge nahackyi *
Ostorhinchus sp. *
Pseudochelinus ocellatus *
Clipperton Angel *
Siganus uspi * (21 years in collection)
Genicanthus personatus * (two pairs, one from 1992 one from 2000).
Prognathodes sp. *
Holanthias fuscipinnis *
Bodianus sanguineus *
Leafy and Weedy seadragons *
Cirrhilabrus rosefascia
Pseudanthias carlsoni
Rhinopias sp. (Hawaiian species)
Boarfish (Antigonia sp.) (deepwater butterfly-like fish)
Bearded Armorheads *
Priolepis aureoviridis (Hawaiian endemic goby)
Antennarius drombus (Hawaiian endemic frogfish)
Cosmocampus balli (endemic HI pipefish)
Desmoholocanthus arcuatus
Liopropoma aurora
Paracheilinus bellae
Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis

Maybe Bruce Carlson can add to this list ...

Also, most of the C. interrupta in the US market are now coming from RCT.
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Old 06/20/2006, 05:30 PM
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wow never seen some of these angels before.
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Old 06/20/2006, 07:40 PM
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Ohhhh myyyyy...

I would do alot of funny things to get a couple from that list.

B.sanguineus
C.hotumatua
and H. limbaughi

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Old 06/20/2006, 08:04 PM
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Genicanthus personatus are what i want for my 300 right now. would love a pair
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Old 06/21/2006, 05:12 AM
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Hello Charles,

I am glad that you have shown the list from Waikiki Aquarium. It is very nice and I have never sen some of them. I know that Centropyge interrupta has successsfully been raised in Oahu.

Well, the Cirrhilabrus roseafascia also is shown in the list, and is it the ones I show here ? I have been keeping a male of 16 cm long from Cebu. Your specimen came from Fiji if I remeber well.


 


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