The "Hitchhiker's Guide" to the Maxi-Stream mod - Page 6

dhnguyen · #**126** 11/29/2006, 08:11 PM

what size prop did you use? Maybe use a smaller one?

rsxs1212 · #**127** 11/29/2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by RichConley
With 2 3004s in a 29, you wont be able to keep the water in the tank.

I almost can't with 2 of them in my 58.

rich are you barebottom?? haha if you can barely keep water in the tank i cant imagine that your sand stays in one spot

hahnmeister · #**128** 11/30/2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by rsxs1212
rich are you barebottom??

Boy, thats kind of a weird question to ask about someone here...

Snarkys · #**129** 11/30/2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by dhnguyen
Hey has anyone seen this?

http://www.hydor.it/inglese/koralia.htm

Looks like finally other manufacturers are getting their heads out of their A**** and start producing propeller pumps. Hopefully this will help lower the ridiculous prices of the Tunze.

I had heard about this . too bad it doesn't state flow rates or prices .

dhnguyen · #**130** 11/30/2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Snarkys
I had heard about this . too bad it doesn't state flow rates or prices .

Actually...

http://www.tropicalfishoutlet.com/Dr...Category=Pumps

If these numbers are accurate, the prices listed are definitely attractive. Only caveat is even with the largest model, the flow is at best compared to a low/medium flow MJ mod. Now if they start producing higher flow models

D.

rsxs1212 · #**131** 11/30/2006, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by hahnmeister
Boy, thats kind of a weird question to ask about someone here...

yes, but then again it has to go with flow and people are asking if two of such would be to much and so on.. i have one high flow in my 75 and my sand gets blown around quiet a bit, with all the pumps hes got in his 58 i was just curious what he did.. maybe i shouldve sent him a pm but i dont think it was that far out of line

Snarkys · #**132** 11/30/2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by dhnguyen
Actually...

http://www.tropicalfishoutlet.com/Dr...Category=Pumps

If these numbers are accurate, the prices listed are definitely attractive. Only caveat is even with the largest model, the flow is at best compared to a low/medium flow MJ mod. Now if they start producing higher flow models

D.

man that's fantastic

dhnguyen · #**133** 11/30/2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by rsxs1212
yes, but then again it has to go with flow and people are asking if two of such would be to much and so on.. i have one high flow in my 75 and my sand gets blown around quiet a bit, with all the pumps hes got in his 58 i was just curious what he did.. maybe i shouldve sent him a pm but i dont think it was that far out of line

I think Hahn meant that as a joke of sorts...

"Are you barebottom?"

-EDIT I should have used a wink with that

"Are you barebottom?"

RichConley · #**134** 11/30/2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by ostrow
I haven't been impressed with some hydor products in the past. At IMAC a couple years ago I won an auto feeder. It was a piece of junk, never worked at all. Very cheap construction.

Another company one could use those adjectives for is supposed to have some mammoth 30K GPH coming out soon... Polario by Rio/Tamm.

Just to be fair, I dont think I've ever seen an autofeeder that didnt feel like it was a piece of junk.

RichConley · #**135** 11/30/2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by rsxs1212
rich are you barebottom?? haha if you can barely keep water in the tank i cant imagine that your sand stays in one spot

No, I'm currently wearing Khakis. I'm flattered you'd ask though.

I'm running about a 3" sand bed. I'm currently just running two of the new maximods. One running a Dumas 3004, one with an octura 1435. One of the Dumas started rattling, and I started sanding down the prop, and then realized it was actually the OTHER one rattling...and had already pretty much ruined that dumas prop...doh.

I'm down to about 35-40lbs of rock in my 58, so I dont need the flow I had when I had about 100+ lbs of rock. I like the open look much better, and flow is easier. Mine are on the back glass, one about 12" up, one 16" up. The one on the left back faces straight across the back of the tank, the one on the left (the higher one) faces diagonally across the corner. The tank is setup to have two triangular rock structures, with a gap in the middle. In the middle is my huge 16-18" sebae anemone.

The Tunze, and two seios have been sold. I've just been too lazy to update my sig. I honestly believe I have more/equal flow now to what I did before. The new style shrouds that Snarky has make a huge difference. (I'm running a slightly bigger return now too, mag5 as opposed to the old maxi1200)

N-A-S-O · #**136** 11/30/2006, 12:35 PM

Question...I was just on the mjmod site and noticed they are claiming the mod now puts out 2400gph:

The high flow kit is designed for use a Maxi jet 1200 Only and does around 2,400 GPH........is this true???

twon8 · #**137** 11/30/2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by naso345543
Question...I was just on the mjmod site and noticed they are claiming the mod now puts out 2400gph:

The high flow kit is designed for use a Maxi jet 1200 Only and does around 2,400 GPH........is this true???

it is a very conservative estimate imo. I believe it is at least 1000 gph more than that, and likely closer to 5000 gph than 2400.

RichConley · #**138** 11/30/2006, 02:36 PM

I dont know about 5K, but it was significantly more than my 1800gph Tunze 6060. I'd guess around 3k, maybe 3.5K

twon8 · #**139** 11/30/2006, 03:00 PM

my guess if i have to give a number is 4000 gph

Snarkys · #**140** 11/30/2006, 03:10 PM

some club members and i tested a bunch of pumps a month ago including the DIY modded MJ , was kinda fun . here is how you do it and the results we came up with .

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...hreadid=966414

Snarkys · #**141** 11/30/2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by dhnguyen
Ok I just got my JBJ pumps this morning. First impression is that they are just like the MJs in shapes and design albeit cheaper.

The smallest model SP1300 (240gph @ 18w) is a bit smaller than the MJ. The next size model SP1800 (290gph @ 25w) is a bit larger then the MJ by about 1/2 inch. The largest model SP2500 (530gph @ 32w) is larger still (about twice the size of the MJ).

Somethings that I do like right off.

1. They have somewhat a fixed shaft (although it is removable) just like the AquaClear pumps so this would make modding them very easy and cut down alot of noise problem. There appears to be a thrust washer installed in there as well.

2. They seem to run much quieter than MJs stock.

Now the bad things and not neccessarily "bad" per se.

1. The diameters of the impeller/mganet port on the various models are all different sizes. They are also not the same size as what we have been using for the MJs so it may take a bit of work to find the right sized pipe to fit these.

2. No way to remove the impeller head other than to cut it off or break the tube and do the tube in magnet build. Not neccessarily a "bad" thing it just mean a bit more work.

3. The shaft sizes appear to be varied in the various models as well.

I'll have more time look into these later this weekend.

ever get one working ? kinda hard to attach the shaft to it. we didn't give it a lot of thought and time though. we decided to break off the top and then drill a 3/16 hole down the center of the plastic inside. glued a 50mm octura to the end and put it in the sink. think pushed a ridiculous amount of water . someday we will have to build a shroud for it .

dhnguyen · #**142** 11/30/2006, 03:26 PM

Snarkys ---

No I really haven't the time lately to do any tinkering with these at all.

From a cursory look at them, it looks like the really only easy way to attach the prop and shaft is to break the top off like you stated. I've been using the smallest model SP1300 for water changes and other things and I can tell you I'm quite impressed with the pump for the size and price

RichConley · #**143** 11/30/2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by Snarkys
some club members and i tested a bunch of pumps a month ago including the DIY modded MJ , was kinda fun . here is how you do it and the results we came up with .

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...hreadid=966414

Snarkys, considering ALL of your tests were lower than manufacturer specs, I'd guess your ratings on the Maxis are low too. I dont know if its back pressure as the bag fills, or just measurement error, but if you correct to the SEIO doing 1500, and the Tunze doing 2250, you're somewhere in the range of 3000gph I'd guess, and Spazz's test is most likely up above 4000gph.

It really wouldnt surprise me...the prop on my 6060 was smaller than an octura 1435, so it doesnt surprise me that the Dumas absolutely destroys it.

Malifluous · #**144** 11/30/2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Snarkys
man that's fantastic

I dont see any prices listed on the website

dhnguyen · #**145** 11/30/2006, 06:07 PM

They're not there anymore. Apparently they took them off but the prices were very attractive with the largest model being around $40 or so.

D.

dhnguyen · #**146** 11/30/2006, 06:09 PM

here's another link http://www.fishkeepers.net/ageofaqua....php?ID=342488

Snarkys · #**147** 11/30/2006, 06:20 PM

funny

quangtam7 · #**148** 11/30/2006, 06:35 PM

They won't be here until mid January, 1200 gph pump is 72 euros in Europe HERE , that is around US $95, don't expect to be less here.

Snarkys · #**149** 11/30/2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by quangtam7
They won't be here until mid January, 1200 gph pump is 72 euros in Europe HERE , that is around US $95, don't expect to be less here.

too bad but you might be right.

http://www.ondablushop.it//catalog/p...63a43c26c4efb0

http://www.aquariumconcept.it/produc...oducts_id=1590

http://www.acquarioshop.it/product_i...8024cb9301cbd5

might just have to try and order one from the link D gave us .

http://www.fishkeepers.net/ageofaqua....php?ID=342488

or just call them 843-556-3474

quangtam7 · #**150** 12/01/2006, 02:27 AM

Right now available only in Italy.