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Old 11/26/2006, 11:01 AM
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What are you using to dose potassium?
i mixed 4 tbsp with a gallon of tank water a day and placed it in my tank....
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Old 11/26/2006, 01:48 PM
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4 tablespoons of what? KCl tablets ground up?

Did the bottle list any ingredients aside from KCl?
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Old 11/26/2006, 02:34 PM
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4 tablespoons of what? KCl tablets ground up?

Did the bottle list any ingredients aside from KCl?
lol sorry about that... this is what i used
http://www.iherb.com/store/productde...01450&ppnshpng




here is a pic of the ingredents/ suppliment facts..


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Old 11/26/2006, 04:13 PM
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I use the same one as Bebo with same result.
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Old 11/26/2006, 04:14 PM
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One thing keeps bothering that the K-Balance doesn't say what in that bottle. They just say it has been proven. I hope the KCL will be proven soon too.
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Old 11/26/2006, 10:02 PM
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All the Zeovit didn't list any ingredients aside on the bottle. Are they legal to sell these in US? Anyone is working for CAl OSHA or FDA, please welcome.

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Old 11/27/2006, 12:42 AM
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another thing I noticed in Zeovit is my skin got very itchy after I put my hand in the water.
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Old 11/27/2006, 08:42 AM
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here is a pic of the ingredents/ suppliment facts..




Looks like a good choice.

One thing keeps bothering that the K-Balance doesn't say what in that bottle. They just say it has been proven. I hope the KCL will be proven soon too.

Yes, that makes it hard to know what is causing any effect.

I use the same one as Bebo with same result.

Which result? The colors?
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Old 11/27/2006, 10:29 AM
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yes, I was able to save my Lengsy cap. It was almost completely bleached out. I don't know if Bebo pay attention to this issue or not that when my tank had low Potassium (around 200), whenever I did water change, the next day, one of the acro RTN and I lost it overnight. I am sure that Bebo asked that question on the other forum.
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Old 11/27/2006, 10:32 AM
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another thing I noticed in Zeovit is my skin got very itchy after I put my hand in the water.

You should contact Cal Osha for this happend. By the time you should visit your doctor. You might get skin cancel if you keep put your hand in the water.
http://www.dir.ca.gov/DOSH/dosh1.html
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Old 11/27/2006, 10:34 AM
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Zeovit is suck, you guys should get out. Too much chemical in there.
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Old 11/27/2006, 10:45 AM
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yes, I was able to save my Lengsy cap. It was almost completely bleached out. I don't know if Bebo pay attention to this issue or not that when my tank had low Potassium (around 200), whenever I did water change, the next day, one of the acro RTN and I lost it overnight. I am sure that Bebo asked that question on the other forum.

one thing i noticed wih zeo is that if you dont keep up your water parameters you get rtn.. but i think the same may be true for any sps zeo or non zeo...
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Old 11/27/2006, 10:48 AM
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Zeovit is suck, you guys should get out. Too much chemical in there.
its not a difficult product you use but you have to keep an eye on your corals everday... One thing that i like about zeo is the fact that it works.. i had bad algea when i started my tank but with in a month zeo got rid of all of it...

in reality from what i understand is that zeo keeps your water at nsw levels always... i dont have anydetectable po4, nitrates, nitrites, ammonia etc..
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Old 11/27/2006, 12:01 PM
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in reality from what i understand is that zeo keeps your water at nsw levels always... i dont have anydetectable po4, nitrates, nitrites, ammonia etc..

How do you know the nutrients are not too low? My understanding is that zeo seems to keep corals half starved, and that is why they may be more colorful, since the zoox (which are a golden brown color) are lower than "normal".
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Old 11/27/2006, 03:11 PM
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How do you know the nutrients are not too low? My understanding is that zeo seems to keep corals half starved, and that is why they may be more colorful, since the zoox (which are a golden brown color) are lower than "normal".
Thats why i say you have to look at your corals everyday to make sure nothing is going wrong... zeo strips all the "gunk" out of the water thus you have to "feed" your corals so that they do not become to nutrient deprived and rtn or bleach

i test my water 3 times a week and i test the water that i am "changing" at least 2 times to make sure that it is correct in every facet. Its a pita but the "WOW" factor when people see the colors is worth it imo
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Old 11/27/2006, 03:24 PM
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my 2 cents, if you can get you tank close to NSW, no matter what method you go for, your tank will look good. That's why I am learning to Zeolith which requires less work and at least, their products label what in there.
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Old 11/28/2006, 09:19 AM
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lol sorry about that... this is what i used
http://www.iherb.com/store/productde...01450&ppnshpng




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Has anyone figured out how much 1 teaspoon will raise 100 gallons? Based on what I am seeing here I came up with 22 teaspoons to raise my level from 325 to 380ish in 350 gallons net. On another forum someone said I would only need 33 grams! Can anyone confirm my math?
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Old 11/28/2006, 09:31 AM
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To raise 100 gallons by 100 ppm, you need 38 grams of potassium, or 72 grams of potassium chloride. In your case you'd need 139 grams. That number of teaspoons might be about right.
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Old 11/28/2006, 11:35 AM
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1 tsp will raise 25ppm on 100g.
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Old 11/28/2006, 12:05 PM
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What we need to make up now, is a stock solution so that we can weekly dose and not have it go up too much.. After we get it to around 380....
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Old 11/28/2006, 01:41 PM
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FWIW, NSW has about 400 ppm, so if you are bothering to monitor and dose, I'd target 400 ppm.
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Old 11/28/2006, 02:22 PM
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FWIW, NSW has about 400 ppm, so if you are bothering to monitor and dose, I'd target 400 ppm.

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Old 11/28/2006, 02:30 PM
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I tested my 15g IO water change and the K is around 300, I just need to add .5 tsp to bring it up the K to 400.
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Old 11/28/2006, 02:50 PM
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But do we know if it get used up by anything in the tanks? Or do the levels go down by water changes without adding it?

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Old 11/28/2006, 03:00 PM
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I will test the tank and let you know.
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