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03/12/2006, 11:55 PM
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Prodibio is not expensive at all.
I have a 2500l tank and I dose as below. Bio digests 3 vials weekly Bioptim 6 vials weekly Reef booster 2 vials weekly. I also add 5ml of vodka a day as a carbon source./ same as start 2. I also add iron and amino acids. Trace elements. I feel you don’t have to add start 2 , CV etc. you can find plenty of substitutes that are far cheaper is budget is a problem. I am a stage now that I will be dosing Bio Digest and Bioptim every two weeks as my tank is getting too clean. Finally got a good photo of my Atlantic Blue and bellus angel. 
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03/13/2006, 01:32 AM
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Nice tank travis, got some nice pieces.
Not really a fan of barebottom tanks as I don’t see any benefits. They were popular in the 1980s . Julian sprung points out that sand or gravel in a reef aquarium could play a very important role in nutrients cycling and acts as a refuge for variuos micro organisms, worms and crustacens. |
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03/13/2006, 05:01 AM
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Before/after pics would be great if poss  Cheers Simon
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03/13/2006, 05:11 AM
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Nice pieces in there and plenty up upward growth space. The double atol looks great - and the canyon bridged with plating corals is/will have a fascinating effect. I like the black background - will draw out colours. Are you going to epoxy and corals to the back? I know here your comming from with BB - 6 years plus sustainability..... Have you got a refugium? cheers Simon
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03/13/2006, 09:56 AM
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Travis,
No one comments that it looks like there is no water in the tank? Don't need sand if there is no water!  But on a serious note, where did you get those chromis mobils??? LOL...Don't listen to the anti-BB remarks. I hear them all the time too and as patient as I am with my tanks, so I can be with others' inevitable crash. 
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03/13/2006, 11:35 AM
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Thanks everyone.
 There are already corals attatched to the back. You can see on the back left side there is a purple montipora attached to the back. And down and to the left of that there is an orange montipora also attaced to the back but it is not so easy to see in the picture. I don't run a refugium on this tank. As for the BB comments, I don't mind. Everyone has different beliefs on how a tank should be run and some people seem to hold on strongly to their own beliefs. I realize that a tank can be run successfully regardless of what type of substrate is used (if any).
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03/13/2006, 03:23 PM
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Hello all
I have just read all of the 30 pages in this post...I am ready to try these supplements on my fairly new 120g display tank. because of the different tanks posted here and the different methods tried I am not sure what I need to get started and what doses I should use. I believe that I will bring on the Zeo supplements later after I get established with the Prodibio as I dont want to rush this at all. here is a link to some recent pics of my tank www.einsweb.com/web2_28_06 the tank is 6 months old and very stable with the following parameters... Temp 78-79.5 deg alk 9.5 DKH calcium 400ppm mag 1350 ppm pH 8.2 to 8.35 phosphate undetectable Nitrate and nitrite undetectable This tank will be primaraly SPS and Clams and has a 3" substrate consisting of a bed of crushed aragonite topped with Southdown sand. I will move forward as soon as I am sure of proper dosages for the 3 Prodibio products Thanks in advance for your help getting me started... einstein |
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03/13/2006, 05:42 PM
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Wow, I haven't seen this thread in forever. I didn't realize it had grown to this!
I recently started Prodibio as well. After I figured out how to open the ampules without throwing shards of glass ;-) I was pretty amazed at the Reef Booster. It brought out polyps in almost all my corals, including LPS (lords, micros, dendros) and SPS. On my new set-up (next month HOPEFULLY) I plan on using: the basic 3 Prodibios and Coral Vitalizer. It will be a well skimmed, high flow, low nutrient tank. I have been researching different alternatives to the full Zeovit regimine for quite a while now and saw Iwan's tank long ago on a different website. I'm also looking into some of the Elos products, waiting for a little more info from the manufacturer. Thanks again Iwan, for all the thoughts (and pictures) you've shared!
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03/13/2006, 07:55 PM
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If you want to try for prodi 3 months, and assuming 120 is net usg total system volume, you'll need: 6 vials Biodigest - 1 every 2 weeks 12 vials bioptim - 2 every 2 weeks 12 vials reef booster - 1 every week pls do some before /after shots cheers Simon
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03/13/2006, 10:19 PM
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Simon
Thank You... I will do some additional shots especially of the new frags in my system, so we can document the growth rate and overall health of the specimens. I am going to order the product this week and will continue to udate everyone.... This thread is getting large, should we consider starting a new thread specifically for documenting the progress of people who are using this new Prodibio system? and to give Iwan his thread back?....just an idea. I will let all of you know when I am ready to start and post some before pics. Thanks again einstein |
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03/13/2006, 11:00 PM
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I would love to know what happens to a tank after you stop dosing this product. I mean, is it like Rain-X, where if you stop putting it on your windshield, you almost can't see out of the glass until it is all completely removed?
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03/13/2006, 11:47 PM
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03/14/2006, 06:44 AM
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Travis,
How do you keep your coralline in check? Mine is becoming a serious nuissance. I never really minded it in my past tanks, as coralline was considered a 'good' thing to have. I've just seen so many nice tanks posted here on RC with little to no coralline, and kind of like the 'clean' look.
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03/14/2006, 07:56 AM
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after 3 weeks with nightsun
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Since three weeks I am dosing the trace elements of the company Nightsun in small quantities. I only give about 10% of the recommended dose. Some colors have intensified themselves. For me a lot of colors look more metallic. Judge the pictures yourself. Before:  After 3 weeks:  Before:  after 3 weeks:  Before:  after 3 weeks:  Before:  after 3 weeks: 
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03/14/2006, 09:00 AM
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Hi Iwan
Looks like you've done it again! - Very impressive - a new chapter in the 'Iwan Method' The blues pinks and purples look particularly deeper on my monitor -really nice. The yellow has a little change - is it much different in person? The growth rate looks to be impressive for 21 days - is this your normal growth rate, or have the elements increased this? As two of the nightsun products contain calcium and magnesium - have you change the amount of CA you add through the balling method? Do you add all four regardless of you CA and MG levels? Are you planning to keep to increase the doses over time? I will recieve the nightsun products tommorrow - really looking forward to seeing the effects  Thanks again for sharing this Cheers Simon
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03/14/2006, 09:13 AM
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Coral test
With this test I want to show how fast a "brown" coral can get colored under optimal conditions. The test coral is a table coral (Acropora solitaryensis). I have the coral got of a friendly reefkeeper. I have got the animal on 2-24-2006. The color was dark chocolate-colored. At that time the coral had a diameter of 12 and 13 cm.
The coral on 2-24-2006  Coral after 2.5 weeks 3-14-2006 
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03/14/2006, 10:43 AM
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Those are some pretty good results Iwan. I can tell the pictures look very similar but there is a positive difference in the colors on some of the corals. I am also very impressed with your growth rates.
Floridiot, unfortunately, the only "secret" I know of is elbow grease. I recently cleaned the walls. Here is the tank a couple months ago when it was not so clean:http://www.notlehs.com/travis/12-28-05/full-tank.jpg |
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03/14/2006, 02:23 PM
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Wow, Iwan never thought your color could get any better. I did a quick search for Nightsun products and I don't think they are available in the states.
Well here are my 2 tanks, I wanted to get some good before pictures because the Prodibio is supposed to arrive today. So, here are the pictures. 50G SPS/LPS tank. Full tank shot:  Here is some of the algae I'm hoping goes away with the dosing of Prodibo. Nasty red truff algae hard to get rid of.   I'm also hoping to get some color back in this SPS, it used to be a very bright green.  Here is the 29G softy tank, I would just love to see the algae go away in it. It used to be full of zoa and other LPS but I had a crash and most dead, but it is recoverying now.  Thanx, Rich |
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03/14/2006, 04:33 PM
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h20cooled, looks like you've got some nice pieces in there. Do you have a very large clean-up crew? I think a good army of astrea snails would take care of the algae in the pics you posted very quickly.
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