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Old 01/31/2007, 11:29 PM
aninjaatemyshoe aninjaatemyshoe is offline
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Can you run the pump without the control box? Also, can you shut off the speeds so that it only runs on one or two speed settings?
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Old 02/01/2007, 01:00 AM
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I'm not sure about running it without the control box, but I THINK you can set the time to zero on any given speed, effectively shutting that speed off. I think. I'll let you know if nobody else does.
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Old 02/01/2007, 08:18 AM
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Unfortunately you can't run these without the control module (well at least not with out modifying the wiring).

Also you can't shut any of the three speed options off. All you can do is turn down the time it spends on each setting to the lowest value - which is 5 seconds. So basically you cannot run it wide open all the time, or on low all the time. No matter what you do it will always cycle between low, med, and high.
The control is really simplistic...I guess that's why it's so cheap.
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Old 02/01/2007, 12:54 PM
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I hope the problems people are having are all related to the control box, not the pump itself. I suppose at the very least, the pump could be wired into a DC transformer, right? Maybe then I could juice it with 50W and get 6000 gph out of it, hehe. Would that work? The propeller and magnet are huge.
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Old 02/01/2007, 01:14 PM
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Sounds like we need an electrician to chime in here. This kind of breakdown worries me.

I wonder if this thing could be wired successfully to use it in a wave box.
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Old 02/01/2007, 02:07 PM
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I bet you could totally use this on a Tunze controller if you purchased the transformer for the sucker.

Kind of like how Tunze 6000 can be upgraded to a Tunze 6100 with a simple switch in transformers.

Someone do it... do it!

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Old 02/01/2007, 03:20 PM
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I'm nearly 100% sure the problem is in the controller.
When I started troubleshooting the problem the first thing I did was unplugged the cord that goes between the controller and the pump. When I plugged it back in nothing happend.
When I unplugged the cord from the DC adapter to the controller and plugged it back in the pump started up.
So it seems that resetting the controler by removing the power for 10 seconds does the trick.

I'm guessing that someone with a bit of electroics knowledge could probably rebuild or modify the existing controller. I
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Old 02/01/2007, 11:45 PM
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that is a nise pump, power wise it sounds stronger then a M J 1200 with the mod .
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Old 02/02/2007, 02:02 PM
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Well, I just got mine and hooked it up.

First impressions:

Fast shipping. China to my door in 6 days.

The box (which was a shoe box, lol) smelled like gasoline. Weird.

It's big, and the bracket barely fits my 120 gallon AGA.

Doesn't move quite as much as I was expecting. I think my maxi-stream moves as much, which makes me appreciate more how well that little thing works.

I think the reason it doesn't seem as if it moves as much water is because of the controller. When it's at the "big" setting, it's moving a good amount in a nice, wide stream. But, it only lasts for 10 sec, then it's back to a measly 500 gph for a minimum of 10 sec. If I could alternate just between middle and big settings, I would get an average of about 1500 gph more. That's a lot. Right now, it's an average of about 2200 gph.

At the "big" setting, the controller buzzes. A little worrisome, I have a feeling it's going to stop working like other people's. We'll see.

Right now, I give it a C+, but it's only been on my tank for 15 minutes, so we'll have to wait and see how it grows on me.
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Old 02/02/2007, 04:02 PM
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As long as the pump itself doesn't crap out ... I'm sure that a better controller will show up soon. Everyone here is VERY inventive
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Old 02/02/2007, 04:17 PM
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I agree with Hippies comments. It seems that just as the pump begins to move a critical mass of water it kicks down to the lowest setting. If it would just stay on high for another 30 seconds it would be able to provide better flow in larger tanks. I'm seriously considering just splicing the wires and bypassing the contoller.
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Old 02/02/2007, 07:30 PM
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Can you increase the time for the higher settings?
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Old 02/02/2007, 10:52 PM
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I agree with Hippies comments. It seems that just as the pump begins to move a critical mass of water it kicks down to the lowest setting. If it would just stay on high for another 30 seconds it would be able to provide better flow in larger tanks. I'm seriously considering just splicing the wires and bypassing the contoller.
Do it. Then tell me if you broke it or not .
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Old 02/02/2007, 10:53 PM
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Can you increase the time for the higher settings?
You can, just not as much as I would like to.
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Old 02/03/2007, 12:55 AM
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Can you open the control box and take a picture of the wiring/board?
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Old 02/03/2007, 05:59 PM
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While it is arguable if it does anything the whole point of these DC pumps is the pulsing.

I wouldn't call it a disadvantage because it is doing what it is meant to.

There are plenty of options for non pulsing pumps.
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Old 02/06/2007, 04:23 PM
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bump .. news?
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Old 02/06/2007, 04:50 PM
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While it is arguable if it does anything the whole point of these DC pumps is the pulsing.

I wouldn't call it a disadvantage because it is doing what it is meant to.

There are plenty of options for non pulsing pumps.
That's true. The pump does exactly what it said it would do, I just wish the lowest setting was a higher gph. But, so far, so good. I was able to take off one of my panworld pumps, saving about 80W and getting more flow. I'm thinking about getting 2 more if this one holds up.
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Old 02/06/2007, 07:48 PM
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Mine has been running continuously for the last 5 or 6 days, so it looks like I may have worked through the issues I was having.
I'll add an update in a few weeks if it's still running strong.
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Old 02/09/2007, 11:21 AM
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Yeah cheesy bracket, very similar to the cheesy Tunze bracket I have.
you spent enough $$ to buy a tunze and didn't fork another $30 for a magnet?
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Old 02/09/2007, 11:49 AM
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How can any company justify $30 for a magnet??? All you have to do essentially is encase a rare-earth magnet in acrylic and attach it to a cheap plastic bracket.... and apparently that costs $30. (consider that the new koralias come with magnets and the low-end one costs little more than $30)
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Old 02/09/2007, 12:42 PM
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How can any company justify $30 for a magnet??? All you have to do essentially is encase a rare-earth magnet in acrylic and attach it to a cheap plastic bracket.... and apparently that costs $30. (consider that the new koralias come with magnets and the low-end one costs little more than $30)
Because that company's name is Tunze
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Old 02/09/2007, 12:49 PM
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Well....the 'Sure Grip' magnets are even more $$
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Old 02/09/2007, 12:50 PM
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you spent enough $$ to buy a tunze and didn't fork another $30 for a magnet?
You spent enough money on a Tunze, why should you have to pay another $30 for a good way to mount it? You think they would include that in the price.
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Old 02/09/2007, 01:05 PM
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but the point still stands...if you make the leap for tunze or vortech then might as well do it the right way, no
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