Lighting Website Updates - Page 17

hahnmeister · #**401** 02/05/2006, 12:50 AM

Sanjay, ah..its scaling. Wow...I will have to take that into consideration from now on.

I will double check, but I am sure its is a 12,000K...some new bulb...pretty sure he said BLV.

wfgworks · #**402** 02/05/2006, 11:00 AM

BLV doesnt have a 12K to my knowledge but they just released a DE bulb that is 14K.

Antman · #**403** 02/06/2006, 01:34 PM

Sanjay, any chance you kbnow the Par rating on a Blueline 10K+175 W lamp
This lamp is the blueist I found & love the look But not sure of its PAR
Thanks ~

RedEyeReef · #**404** 02/06/2006, 05:14 PM

Sanjay (or anyone else)

Know or heard anything about an Oceanbulb 12,000K that Custom Aquatics is showing on their web page? Is this a new bulb from Aqua Medic?

hahnmeister · #**405** 02/07/2006, 01:02 AM

I dont know, but Aqua Medic also has a 16,000K that they just dont sell in the states.

Sanjay · #**406** 02/07/2006, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Antman
Sanjay, any chance you kbnow the Par rating on a Blueline 10K+175 W lamp
This lamp is the blueist I found & love the look But not sure of its PAR
Thanks ~

NO, I have not tested the blueline 175W 10K. I may have tested it several years ago, and the data would probably be in

Joshi, S. 2002, "Spectral Analysis of Recent Metal Halide Lamps: Part IV- 10000K and 12000K lamps," 2002 Annual Marine Fish and Reef USA , Fancy Publications.

Unfortunately, I do not have a electronic version of this one anymore. The excel files with the data and the doc files became a victim to a virus attack several years ago.

sanjay.

Sanjay · #**407** 02/07/2006, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahnmeister
I dont know, but Aqua Medic also has a 16,000K that they just dont sell in the states.

They are all playing the numbers game now. Lets take the numbers that are not taken

I think we as hobbyist should put the ownus on the manufacturer and sellers to provide data that validates thier marketing claims.

sanjay.

Rothie · #**408** 02/07/2006, 09:20 AM

Quote:

I think we as hobbyist should put the ownus on the manufacturer and sellers to provide data that validates thier marketing claims.

Antman · #**409** 02/07/2006, 09:27 AM

Thanks Sanjay,on your website you do list the info for the Blueline 10K+ ( not the super white) in 250W and its PPFD is down in the dumps at 33. Should I assume the 175 W version ov this lamp is even worse . I do realy like the coloration of this lamp very blue on my Mag 57 Venture ballast
Should I be concerned with such low PPFD keeping soft corals ?
If so could you or someone suggest a new lamp with good PPFD but still have a nice blue look
Thanks ~

causeofhim · #**410** 02/07/2006, 10:20 AM

I wouldn't be worried about lower par halides if you have a softie tank. If you like the look and things are doing fine, keep it.

causeofhim · #**411** 02/07/2006, 10:34 AM

Does anyone have a link to PAR values of T5 bulbs?

Antman · #**412** 02/08/2006, 08:04 AM

Are there any thoughts on the Reeflux 12K 175W lamps ?
I am looking for a blue lamp with good par

causeofhim · #**413** 02/08/2006, 09:32 AM

175-watt SE 14K Iwasaki would probably be perfect for what you are looking for.

ASH · #**414** 02/08/2006, 10:07 AM

We have a thread and some pics of the 175W 14K Iwasaki bulbs over water on the IceCap forum.
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...22#post6693222

Andy

causeofhim · #**415** 02/09/2006, 01:46 AM

Maybe I'm a little slow but, I just noticed that JBJ is making halide bulbs (JBJ K-1). When did this start? I haven't heard anything about their performance.

Sanjay, you do not have them on your site yet. Have you tried or heard anything about them yet?

Thanks

Antman · #**416** 02/09/2006, 03:25 PM

I think the Iwasaki might not be as blue as I like -
I am looking for the blueist lamp with good bar (not GREAT par)
I keep soft corals so I am not sure if I really need the best par possible .The 250W lamp (blueline10K+) only comes in at 33 ppfd so I assume the 175W is even less. I realy love the look of this lamp but want a better lamp for the corals health.

hahnmeister · #**417** 02/09/2006, 04:20 PM

Aquaconnect 14,000K...

Antman · #**418** 02/09/2006, 04:31 PM

According to cnidarianreef his test of the XM & CV 20K lamps (in 250W) hade better par on a m57 than the Aquaconect 14K
I would assume this would be true for 175W also

Sanjay · #**419** 02/13/2006, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by causeofhim
Maybe I'm a little slow but, I just noticed that JBJ is making halide bulbs (JBJ K-1). When did this start? I haven't heard anything about their performance.

Sanjay, you do not have them on your site yet. Have you tried or heard anything about them yet?

Thanks

No.. I have not seen these lamps. There are just too many chinese lamps comming it.

sanjay.

Sanjay · #**420** 02/13/2006, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Antman
I think the Iwasaki might not be as blue as I like -
I am looking for the blueist lamp with good bar (not GREAT par)
I keep soft corals so I am not sure if I really need the best par possible .The 250W lamp (blueline10K+) only comes in at 33 ppfd so I assume the 175W is even less. I realy love the look of this lamp but want a better lamp for the corals health.

Look through the spectral plots of the 20KK lamps .. and find the ones that have the highest output in the 400-500 range and lower output elsewhere. That should net you the bluest lamp.

I am working on some enhancements to the site that would allow you to view the color coodinates of the lamp on a CIE color chart. This would possibly help in determining "how blue" the lamp could appear. It still work in progress.

sanjay.

Siffy · #**421** 02/13/2006, 07:36 PM

Sanjay,

Do you have any 70 watt bulb readings that will one day show up on the website or do you just not bother with that low of wattage?

I also wanted to ask if you (or anyone else) could tell me the difference between these ballasts
http://www.1000bulbs.com/products.ph...Halide-Ballast
Specifically what's different about F-CAN vs. Multitap ballasts? Or if they would either accomplish starting and burning an HQI bulb like this, http://www.hellolights.com/70w10hqiu.html , "70W 10,000K HQI Double Ended -Ushio".

I'm considering adding a small metal halide and a heat pump chller to my 5g nano in the next few months.

Thanks,
Will

hahnmeister · #**422** 02/13/2006, 11:55 PM

mwood, I double checked about the halibe bulbs today. They are BLV 10,000K (but are marketed as 12,000Ks, kind of like AB does their 13,000/10,000Ks). I thought that this was the same bulb as the Ushio, but his corals are all freaking out.

dirtyreefer · #**423** 02/14/2006, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wfgworks
BLV doesnt have a 12K to my knowledge but they just released a DE bulb that is 14K.

Is the 14K DE BLV bulb the same as the Ushio 14K DE bulb? I know they're the same company, but are they releasing two different bulbs at the same K, or is one brand meant to be sold in Europe and the other in US.

Also, has anyone used the BLV 14K DE bulbs? I am curious to see what the color is like, as well as the PAR (or PPFD).

Tunguska · #**424** 02/15/2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Siffy
I also wanted to ask if you (or anyone else) could tell me the difference between these ballasts
http://www.1000bulbs.com/products.ph...Halide-Ballast
Specifically what's different about F-CAN vs. Multitap ballasts? Or if they would either accomplish starting and burning an HQI bulb like this, http://www.hellolights.com/70w10hqiu.html , "70W 10,000K HQI Double Ended -Ushio".

F-can ballasts are simply cap and coil ballasts enclosed in a metal can with asphalt. They have their pros and cons, but will work.
Multi-tap refers to a ballast that can be used with different voltages, depending on how you wire it. F-can can be multi-tap, for example.

As for the specific ballast you linked to, The ANSI code is M110. It looks like the F-can is simply an enclosed version of the cap and coil one below it. The Ushio bulb is designed for an M85 ballast. It won't work.

For my 10 gallon nano, I use a Universal Lighting Technologies ballast (F-can, multi-tap) I got on e-bay for ~$20 shipped. It is designed for M98/M101 bulbs. I use a double ended bulb designed for M85/M98 ballasts. In my case, each matches, so it works. If the Ushio bulb will fire on an M98 ballast, you could get one of the Universal or Advanced 70W ballasts that are all over ebay for cheap.
Make sure you know the designation of the bulb you intend to use, and use that # when you purchase your ballast. (aka, a M85 bulb needs a M85 ballast)
Hope that helps.

Siffy · #**425** 02/15/2006, 02:16 AM

Thanks, helps a lot. Right now I'm thinking "Duh, should've known/thought about the ANSI codes"... and after looking, this site http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...ie/38/id33.htm shows an M110 ballast as 50 watt. What bulb are you using that's known M98 compatible? MD carries "Aqualine AB" in 10 and 20000K but doesn't list the ANSI type on either. Also, any pics in your gallery of your nano?

OT: Just noticed you're in Tuscaloosa. There's a small frag swap http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...hreadid=773755 about 2 hours north of you this weekend if you're interested and have the time. Don't know if you view the Alabama Reefers forum here much.