lemonade acro lineage

reefer on a budget · #1 01/26/2007, 03:53 PM

i figure since there is one on the superman we might as well start one with the lemonade. the lemonade dates back to probably late 1990s.

tyree>tubs>bruddah & roab>snipersps,ming@atlantis, oriental express, aquascene, exoticreefs(tubs), robz

bruddah and tubs lost their pieces awhile back so luckily i was able to frag it out for several ppl who im sure farmed it as well and then returned a frag back to tubs.

imagine if we did one on the cali tort...that coral has been passed around through the US. practically ever sps reefer has one.

tacocat · #2 01/26/2007, 04:53 PM

John (tubs) bought it from Tyree as one of his brownout specials. The coral started gaining momentum after mane3215 posted some pics. He did the same for the rainbow monti.

Unarce · #3 01/26/2007, 04:58 PM

I thought Steve just threw it in as a brown freebie

Funny how it came full circle to the LE list

isseym328 · #4 01/26/2007, 05:08 PM

Alex I think since I sold you a piece of the superman danae back then for $15 bucks you should be able to sell me a frag of your lemonade for $15?? I was looking for that piece everywhere but noone really had it or just have a small frag of it.

reefer on a budget · #5 01/26/2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by tacocat
John (tubs) bought it from Tyree as one of his brownout specials. The coral started gaining momentum after mane3215 posted some pics. He did the same for the rainbow monti.

if u do a search for robz, ull see he posted a pic of the frag i gave him. he called it the pink poly, purple/green body stag. i believe a bunch of guys on the east coast back then got frags including mr miyagi.

james, if you remember ive been long gone from the hobby..ive been messing around the boards lately just waiting for all my stuff to be sold.

isseym328 · #6 01/26/2007, 05:17 PM

yeah I was kidding I know you haven't been into the reef hobby for quite a while now. I don't think I will really get back into the sps trade for at least another year or so. I only got a 20g right now that holds some of my more valuable stuff. But def the lemonade acro was one of the pieces that i was looking for for a long time. I wonder which piece it was back when Tyree had it. You know i used to drop by his place a lot back in the days. Wish I picked it up then.

copps · #7 01/26/2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by reefer on a budget
if u do a search for robz, ull see he posted a pic of the frag i gave him. he called it the pink poly, purple/green body stag. i believe a bunch of guys on the east coast back then got frags including mr miyagi.

I remember Robie having that coral on his "bake rack" in his frag tank getting blasted by 250 radiums... the color was unreal... my other local buddy had a frag lined up from him, and hours before he was to pick it up Mike Paletta came by and yanked it!

Robie hooked me up alot through the years, and took photos of my system for RK mag... as skilled a photographer as he was a reefer... Me and his GF took care of his reef when he was away in Peru, and I didn't chop anything! (Shoot!

) On a side note he called me last month and we got back in touch... he's married, looking to move to the suburbs and get back into the hobby! Anyway... here's one of his old shots of the pink lemonade...

I'm looking for a piece and have much to trade for it... I'll also supply Robie with it again, so think of it as doing your part for reefing history! I believe Robie deserves at least partial credit for showing the full potential of this coral

isseym328 · #8 01/26/2007, 06:08 PM

Oh man that pic is unreal. The pink and green just pops out right at you. What kind of lighting is that under?

copps · #9 01/26/2007, 06:11 PM

That was under 250 20k radiums... about 2 inches from the bulb...

tacocat · #10 01/26/2007, 06:45 PM

Here's the pic I remember. I guess it was robz. I think mane saved it in his gallery.:

Original thread here.
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...k&pagenumber=3

copps · #11 01/26/2007, 06:56 PM

Yeah... those were after it had been "miagied" a bunch I think... Robie was at one time a professional photographer for Reuter's I think and it shows... combine that with his graphic design and excellent skills in the hobby and boom! When we get together I'll bring him back on to RC...

tacocat · #12 01/26/2007, 07:00 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot.

John just slapped the name pink lemonade on it in the last year or so, or at least it wasn't widely called that. At the same time, Atlatnis was selling the coral under the name "Shades of Fall".

isseym328 · #13 01/26/2007, 07:20 PM

two inches??!! No wonder the sps is showing such spectacular colors. It's pretty much touching the light. =)

slobound · #14 01/26/2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by isseym328
But def the lemonade acro was one of the pieces that i was looking for for a long time. I wonder which piece it was back when Tyree had it. You know i used to drop by his place a lot back in the days. Wish I picked it up then.

This is one that I haven't been able to get a hold of either since it got popular. Hmmmm, I guess the search continues...

reefer on a budget · #15 01/26/2007, 07:27 PM

in all honesty, i dont think anyone colored the lemonade as well as robz did...well that goes for a lot of corals out of his tank. he just made them all unreal. i believe he was running dual radiums and some 96watt pc actinics...similar setup as berlin method who also kept nice colors on his corals.

not that im being a hater, with all the hype around this coral, i really dont think it looks all that great unless you're running tons of blue lighting. underanything else the coral looks less than spectacular. its definitely not worth the 400+ it went for on ebay.

slobound · #16 01/26/2007, 07:35 PM

Yeah, the corals out of robz tank looked insane! He definitely was able to get the best colors out of his corals.

Was this coral in your tank when I was around your place Alex? I don't ever remember seeing this piece in person.

isseym328 · #17 01/26/2007, 07:39 PM

the rarity of this coral keep the price high. Hopefully in a few years after everyone that has it has whole colonies growing the price will drop down to the appropriate prices that everyone could afford.

reefer on a budget · #18 01/26/2007, 09:55 PM

garrick, it probably was in my tank at that time but u were probably fixated on other corals..haha.

james, there are a ton of ppl growing out that coral so i wouldnt cnosider it that rare...just work the connections ...

Serioussnaps · #19 01/28/2007, 04:17 AM

Awesome you guys are coming around to give us a schooling. Copps and ROAB what do you think about the 60-120 bucks per 3/4" this coral is going for? or am i touching a sensitive subject?

reefer on a budget · #20 01/28/2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Serioussnaps
Awesome you guys are coming around to give us a schooling. Copps and ROAB what do you think about the 60-120 bucks per 3/4" this coral is going for? or am i touching a sensitive subject?

put it this way, when ifragged it for exoticreefs long time ago, frags were selling for $60 i believe, which is i thought was reasonable and later ming sold pieces for around $50 from the frag he grew out from me. it was the whole ebay $450 auction that hyped up the coral a whole bunch. i think $120 is still pricey considering how moderate its growth rate is and how ppl have pieces growing. if we';re talking about a coral that only a handfull of ppl have then i could understand justifying the high price today.

garrick, when u come up to the bay let me know. ill try and see who up here has the lemonade. im sure i can work something out even though i have nothing for a tank and sps.

those pics that taco post above are of robz's piece. freakin awesome how he was able to bring out those colors.

copps · #21 01/28/2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Serioussnaps
Awesome you guys are coming around to give us a schooling. Copps and ROAB what do you think about the 60-120 bucks per 3/4" this coral is going for? or am i touching a sensitive subject?

Sensitive?

Come on...

I agree with Alex on this one... That's a very reasonable price considering the demand for this coral. We as reefers put alot of effort into growing beautiful sps like these, and I think it's a small price to pay considering it's the price of an average wild colony. I pretty much cap my frag prices at $75, with only very few going for $100... not because that's the highest price I could get, but because I think that's fair... Some colonies I have have very high demand and slow growth rates, like the Oregon tort, and others like the encrusting montis (Superman, rainbow, sunset) are tough to frag, grow only two dimensionally (as opposed to three), along with having incredible demand. I think if reefers provide excellent service and quality healthy frags prices in that range are fair. What bugs me is when online vendors get in wild corals and charge prices as if they were captive frags. One particular instance came from a vendor that found Volkswagon size colonies of wild Superman-like montipora a while back, and despite having a huge supply for dirt cheap, charged captive raised prices for small frags just to take advantage of the market. The reason we're charging the prices is because we've all grown them from small frags ourselves, and you're getting a small piece of history as it came from the original colony... That means alot to and I think is kind of neat... You're paying for more than just the color, but rather it's your chunk of history, and whether it be $50 or $75 I think it's a small price to pay considering the money we dump into the hobby... Look at it also as an investment, as you could soon make the money back you bought the coral for (or you could just tell your wife/GF that!

). People that complain about prices like these and say "If I grew out the Superman I'd charge $20 for 3 inch frags" have not grown these things out and don't have them available... and I guarantee that if they got a 1/2" frag and grew it for a year, and you went to their house and chopped off the growth they worked so hard for and offered them $20 they'd laugh...

Copps

reefer on a budget · #22 01/28/2007, 01:06 PM

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by copps
People that complain about prices like these and say "If I grew out the Superman I'd charge $20 for 3 inch frags" have not grown these things out and don't have them available... and I guarantee that if they got a 1/2" frag and grew it for a year, and you went to their house and chopped off the growth they worked so hard for and offered them $20 they'd laugh...

Copps

that is so funny but so true at the same time. ive heard of the el cheapos complaining about the price but when they actually had a chance to grow outsomething desireable they ended up selling for market rate.

znut Reefer · #23 01/28/2007, 01:12 PM

Whats even better is the ones that are thinking about paying the price for a high demand coral, wants to know how big the frag will be. They always want big frags for the same price. I was always glad just to find a frag.

Chaotic Reefer4u · #24 01/28/2007, 01:19 PM

awesome acro, thanx for sharing...

copps · #25 01/28/2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by znut Reefer
Whats even better is the ones that are thinking about paying the price for a high demand coral, wants to know how big the frag will be. They always want big frags for the same price. I was always glad just to find a frag.

Hah! That's another issue... I love when people come by locally and say... "Okay, but how much for the colony of (insert high demand piece I've grown for years)... will that bring the price down?" In my head I'm thinking "Is this guy kidding... I wouldn't sell that if he gave me his car!"