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03/17/2006, 02:37 PM
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YWG Dying?
So I did a 15G water change on my 55G yesterday, and scrubbed some algea off of some of the rocks. I woke up this morning, and my YWG was swimming kinda vertical at the surface of the water. He almost looked as though he wasn't swimming but meing blown around by the current from my filter. I taped the glass and he went to the substrate and has been sitting there ever since. The weird part is I have a pistol shrimp, and in the month I've had him I have never seen the YWG venture more then 2in from the shrimp, now he is on the opisite end of the tank. He seems to be resting on his fins like normal, but not moving around much. I just put some food in the tank, and several pieces floated within .5in of him and he didn't even make an attempt to eat! One even hit him on the head. My water params are:
Ph - 8.2 Ammonia - 0 Nitrite - 0 Nitrate 15-20 The only thing that I think might have cause this is my SG which I usually keep at 1.025, I just checked and it is a little over 1.026. Can I safely add some water and bring it down to 1.025. It's less stressful to lower the SG then raise it right? Do you think that raising the SG from 1.025-1.026+ (probably when I did the water change) could be the problem? What should I do? I also don't see the shrimp anywhere, but mabye he's not coming out because he can't find the Goby? |
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#4
03/17/2006, 03:03 PM
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Just check again and he was like "clinging" to the glass at the top of the tank best I can describe it. Heres a pic sorry for the bad quality
 I tried to catch him with a net so I could put him in a 5Gal bucket but he was to quick. |
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#6
03/17/2006, 03:54 PM
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It's not the salinity, I just dont see how a 1 or 2 point change would make any serious difference. It's also interesting that he was still able to avoid being netted - sounds like he isn't as sick as you may think. That said, I have no idea what could be at issue.
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#11
03/17/2006, 04:22 PM
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The best thing to do would be use the tank water. Are you sure that he is really sick, because moving him might just stress him more. I also think that the change in salinty wont do anything. Any other fish harassing him?
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#13
03/17/2006, 04:27 PM
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I understand that I did use the tank water, an actually I didn't even have to chase him to catch him, I left the net kinda propped up on the top of the tank so it would be ready if he came near it so I could catch him. I went away for a little while came back and he had actually swam into the net, all I did was lift the net out of the water. As far as wheather he's really sick Im not positive, but he deffiently wasn't acting normal and not eating is never a good sign. My question is now what should I do. He is in a 5Gal bucket of tank water with no heater or filter.
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#14
03/17/2006, 04:58 PM
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Ya, that doesnt sound normal, get him in at LEAST a 5 gal tank, put a filter and heater on it then try to watch him to see what the problem is.
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#15
03/17/2006, 05:24 PM
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Unfortunatly I don't have a spare tank, and I know it sounds mean, but I don't really want to buy a new tank, heater, and filter
 at the moment I just found a job and only have like 80 bucks in the bank as sad as that is. I just went to the LFS to grab an airstone and talked to the guy there just for the heck of it. He said that keeping my salinity at 1.025 screws up the fishes bouyency and makes it more difficult to stay under, and basically stresses them out. Which he says is why he was swimming ta the surface. I don't really buy it, but he says I should keep it at 1.021 for Fo, and no higher then 1.023 for reef. Now I know most on RC seem to keep theirs at 1.025 with no ill effects.
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#17
03/17/2006, 05:47 PM
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todd, where in Va are you? there are at least 3 reef clubs in VA, with some very nice people, if you re close enough to me I would be more than happy to lend you a 10g tank and I'm sure I can find a little heater as well.
There is a Richmond club and a Roanoke club and a Blacksburg club. If you are in Northerm Va there is a big club WAMAS that coveres Washington, Maryland and northern VA. colleen |
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#18
03/17/2006, 05:51 PM
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Im in Danville, thanks for the offer. The house is at 76 now, so that shouldn't be that big of an issue, he seems to be swimming around the bucket more since I put the air-stone in I will give him an hour or so and try a little food. So do you think that guy is right about my salinity?
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#20
03/17/2006, 09:24 PM
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Personally I think that water should be kept at 1.026. See Randys article about tank parameters, this is my bible, any question about where a level SHOULD be I refer to this article.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php All the "people in the know" that I have ever read think water should be kept in that range. The only people I have ever heard toting the low salinity thing is some store owners. Personally I hate buying from stores that keep salinity that low because I need to be sooooo much more careful acclimating their livestock to my salinity. Its a huge difference. BTW if it was a buoyancy issue with your salinity shouldn't all your fish be floating? colleen |
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#21
03/17/2006, 09:30 PM
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BTW here are the reef clubs I was mentioning
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...s=&forumid=262 Blacksburg^ http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...s=&forumid=335 Richmond^ http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...s=&forumid=319 Roanoke^ http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...ighlight=wamas colleen |
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#22
03/17/2006, 09:43 PM
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Yeah thats what I though about the salinity, I'll keep it at 1.025 where it is. I still haven't seen the pistol shrimp today, is it normal for them to hide when there is no Goby? Especially if their used to the Goby being there?
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#23
03/17/2006, 10:20 PM
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I've never had them but it seems probable. Don't they pair up in the first place because the pistol doesn't see very well? but builds a cave? If you know where the cave is then I'd put a bit of food right outside the door for him.
You might get a better answer from the fish forum, I'm just guessing. lol colleen |
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#24
03/17/2006, 10:43 PM
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Quote:
 I think you'll be fine using the bucket as a temporary holding tank, a Rubbermaid bin of 10g or so might be even better. As someone mentioned, get a heater and filter on it and presto! Instant hospital tank. I hope he recovers, best of luck 
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#25
03/18/2006, 01:13 AM
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LOL he said the ocen was 1.021
. Anyway he's still aliive, unforunatly as I said B4 I really can't get a heater and filter, his color is still messed up he looks kinda grey and doesn't really move around much. I tried swishing near him with a net and he didn't really respond much just kinda moved away slowly insted of darting like normal. Hopefully he makes it through the night. I wanted to get rid of my Shrimp and Goby but not like this . I don't know what caused this and if I should be concerned for the other fish in the tank. I only have one False Perc. and he seems fine.
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