[Jovreefer]

Last I herd was ORA only had 1 pair breeding & several "paired" in hopes of breeding (but again I have not been up on things this year due to wedding planning) So they could be breeding now. Just like I know rod had a few pairs he is hoping to breed to.. again I have not herd that they started breeding yet.

I still dont see how operation size has anything to do with price though. I do see how quality of clowns are much better on a smaller breeder.. but would that not bump price of smaller breeders clowns up, not oposite.

& I'm sorry embryo, but stubby bodies bred from 2 siblings is not a superior quality IMO. Its a defect from brother & sister breeding. Please dont get me wrong, I love Rods clowns & I think they are some of the best clowns out there & would reccomend them to anyone looking for onyx. Just the statement that subby bodies are superior is not a fact. Now the health of the clowns & the great care taken to raise these clowns does certianly give them a boost in their lives and make them superior to any wild caught clown in captivity or any mass produced clown.

now I'm gonna back out of the thread, to many topics are on here that are not part of the "price of picasso's" & we'll all just have to agree to disagree here.