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BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 05:09 PM
2 clowns
lemonpeel
baby valentini puffer
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 05:39 PM
does anyone know?
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 06:19 PM
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HBtank
12/11/2006, 06:19 PM
No.
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 06:24 PM
no for which ones?
Illuminati
12/11/2006, 06:37 PM
Anyone else annoyed?

Myself and several others have said to stick with nano sized fish for a nano tank.

You have neither the setup or the knowledge to house most of the fish you want.
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 06:45 PM
u have the same setup as i do
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 06:46 PM
all the websites say 25g needed for valentini puffer ok
Illuminati
12/11/2006, 06:49 PM
Not all:

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/puffers/valentinipuffer/
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 06:54 PM
5 gallons more
HBtank
12/11/2006, 06:57 PM
There you go, that's progress.

Now go find some fish that are that don't need more than you have including space, filtration, or compatibility.
reefing102
12/11/2006, 06:59 PM
I say go for it but you'll need an upgrade in about 6 months
Illuminati
12/11/2006, 06:59 PM
Biggeysmalls- 30-24 (Your nanocube right?) = 6 gallons, not 5.
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 07:05 PM
i was subtracting from 30-25 because the sites said 25g min
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 07:07 PM
in nanoreef forum htmack was being told by almost everybody to put tangs in his 29g
HBtank
12/11/2006, 07:13 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8729343#post8729343 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BiggySmalls
in nanoreef forum htmack was being told by almost everybody to put tangs in his 29g

You need better reading comprehension then. Because if that is what you derived from that thread.. well I dunno who can help you..

But I already knew this....
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 07:16 PM
u told him go for it
DrHank
12/11/2006, 07:20 PM
You can put whatever you like in your tank. Everyone who has posted a reply is telling you what you need to hear. You, on the other hand, are trying to find someone to agree with you that it's OK to do what you want. These folks are concerned for the livestock you want to get and they know that it's not appropriate for your tank. You will come to understand this however, it may take another 10 - 15 years of growing up on your part.

If you want to kill fish do what you want, if you want a nice tank listen to those who know!
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 07:28 PM
i just decided not to because it would cost me $65 for the $16 fish
Sk8r
12/11/2006, 07:37 PM
Biggy, go to Foster/Smith's site, up in the sponsor's list, and look at Blennies and Gobies. They're cheeky, up-front fish that are resistent to ich and pretty durable. I can appreciate your wanting a puffer: they're interesting fish, but that's about all you could keep in a 29, and they're delicate, to boot. A tailspot or ember blenny, a yellow watchman goby, and a couple of firefish or chromis would give you a good crew for a first tank. Always active and full of attitude.
BiggySmalls
12/11/2006, 07:55 PM
what about 2 chromis
lux_06
12/12/2006, 02:25 AM
one thing u have to consider too biggy is if your reading minimum tank sizes from a site trying to sell you a fish they are going to put the minimum tank size up there that is the as small as they can put up ther without upsetting people.... much better off getting minimum tank size requirements from this website or another site that is not trying to sell you a fish.
Sk8r
12/12/2006, 02:39 AM
You could do a couple of chromis, but get them at the same time---they'll fight each other if one gets in there first: he'll claim rights to the whole tank. Don't, in general, get two of anything in a small tank: fish don't want friends---they want to Rule the Tank, at least as far as their species is concerned. Make them happy and get just one of a kind, and you won't have fin-nipping and fighting. The yellow watchman will put on a show of flaring his gills and acting tough, but he rarely bites. The ember blenny can get cranky, but the tailspot is well-behaved.
BiggySmalls
12/12/2006, 08:22 AM
ok thanks
Raibaru
12/12/2006, 11:18 AM
If you get 2 small clowns you could do it. True or False perculas for example. The Lemonpeel people tell me shouldn't be in a tank less then 50g. Puffers I've been warned to stay away from since I've started doing research because they are incredibly difficult fish to keep and aren't reef safe.

For your tank, I'd go with 2 small clowns and maybe one more fish. Chromis are fun fish, I like mine. 6 Line Wrasse may also work in your tank. But I'd try to keep it to only 3 fish that stay within the 3" range for atleast 6 months to a year so you can get the hang of things and see how they work out.

2 Clowns will work fine in your tank. You could probably get any of them but some get quite big and I'd stick to Oscellaris or Percula.

Good luck and do your homework.
GSMguy
12/12/2006, 02:53 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8729343#post8729343 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BiggySmalls
in nanoreef forum htmack was being told by almost everybody to put tangs in his 29g
that is just not true you are not reading the words properly everyone says its a bad idea the people who have tangs in a small tank are not doing a favor to this fish that would have a huge territory in the wild
Angel*Fish
12/12/2006, 03:41 PM
Biggie,
Just a little FYI on Valentini puffers - unlike some other puffers, they are not difficult at all --- But....[list=1]
They rarely puff up - if you are wanting the coolness of this display, you'll be disappointed - the puffing behavior is reserved for moments of extreme trauma (eg mine puffed up like a golf ball once when he jumped from the tank - it looked pretty cool, but both of us almost had a heart attack)
They are more intelligent than many fish and may get bored/unhappy in even a larger tank like a 125g - they can develop a pacing habit
In a smaller tank like a 25 they may nip fins - In my 100g mine used to nip the fins of a maroon clown while it slept once every month or so -
They kill snails - even huge turbo snails
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BiggySmalls
12/12/2006, 04:31 PM
i dont care if it puffs up but thanks for the info
Angel*Fish
12/12/2006, 05:52 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8736312#post8736312 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BiggySmalls
i dont care if it puffs up but thanks for the info

You are very welcome :)
BiggySmalls
12/12/2006, 06:22 PM
hey do midas blennys get big or are they not suited for my tank because they look pretty cool.
Illuminati
12/12/2006, 06:35 PM
I think Midas Blennys are cool to but I have read about them being a little aggressive in our sized tanks.
If your keeping just the 2 clowns in there though I doubt he would bother them to much, clowns can stick up for themselves.

When was the tank started and when were the 2 clowns added? It may be wise to wait until after the holidays to add anything else, give your setup more time to mature.
BiggySmalls
12/12/2006, 06:37 PM
OK BECAUSE I AM GETTING MONEY FOR CHRISTMAS
Illuminati
12/12/2006, 06:39 PM
From liveaquaria:

This blenny will appreciate a minimum tank of 30 gallons or larger with numerous rocks on which to perch. Sometimes, the Midas Blenny will vex small planktivores and has been known to nip at firefish and gobies. Larger tanks are advantageous as many of the Midas Blenny's aggressive behavior traits seem to relate to a confining tank situation.

Unlike most blennies, the Midas Blenny requires a meaty diet including finely chopped crustacean flesh, mysid and vitamin-enriched brine shrimp, along with frozen herbivorous preparations, micro and blue-green algae.




From marinecenter.com

Feeds on zooplankton and algae, provide a varied diet that includes frozen preparations for herbivores.
BiggySmalls
12/12/2006, 06:43 PM
WHAT FISH ARE IN YOUR TANK COLINADAM
Angel*Fish
12/12/2006, 06:46 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8737206#post8737206 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BiggySmalls
hey do midas blennys get big or are they not suited for my tank because they look pretty cool.


In case you don't know -there are two types of coloration in them, one is more dusky and the other is more golden (& spectacular)- just a heads up in case you order online. Some online suppliers will try to charge $100+ for the gold ones, so beware because they can be found for a reasonable price.

Truly a wonderful fish, one of my favorites and they have cool facial markings that sometimes make them look as though they are smiling at you
Illuminati
12/12/2006, 06:47 PM
In order that I added them:

Sebae Clownfish

Red Firefish (Clown killed it)

Yellow Watchman Goby

Blue Bar Pseudochromis (Replaced the firefish)

Blue Assesor (Replaced the firefish)

Blue Neon Goby
BiggySmalls
12/12/2006, 06:58 PM
which one is your favorite?
Illuminati
12/12/2006, 07:10 PM
The one I don't have anymore :)


http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/colinadam/tank908002.jpg

Loved the firefish, really adds some color to the tank.

One weekend I noticed the firefish wasn't visable, looked around and did not see him. Didn't see him for like 4 days, figured he died and the cleanup crew did their job.

I went to feed the tank and he poped out of the rock to get some food and the clown chased him right back in the rock.
His back fin was almost nipped off. By the time I yanked the rock and got him out he died that night in QT :(

Been trying to catch my clown since then.... :)

My clown is a jerk with a reputation for being a jerk. A firefish would do well in your tank.

I bought it as a Sebae but everyone tells me it's a Clarki, Clarki's are more aggressive I guess.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/colinadam/SebaeClownfish.jpg