Are Tunze's worth it? [Archive] - Reef Central Online Community Archives

Mighty Dread

11/15/2006, 05:06 PM

I have a 70 gallon tank with only a few corals but will be adding more soon. I currently have about 25x turnover rate using 2 SEIO's and my sump return.

I was thinking of getting 2 Tunze Turbelle Stream 6000's and the controller to replace the SEIO's. This will double my flow, though with the controller I can knock back the flow some.

Is buying these Tunze's a smart move or just a waste of money?
And is 50x too much flow?

pickle311

11/15/2006, 05:13 PM

yes they are worth it and that's not too much flow if you want to keep sps

Andrew

11/15/2006, 05:19 PM

Yes. 100% worth it. The good thing about the 6000s is you can put them on a single or muilti-controller and turn them down some if they do end up being too strong running on full blast. The release date for the 6055 nanostreams which are also controllable is next month.

Mighty Dread

11/15/2006, 06:17 PM

Should I get these new 6055's or just get the 6000's?

HDAlien

11/15/2006, 06:18 PM

I have a pair of 6100s on my 220 and love them!

HDAlien

Nuuze

11/15/2006, 07:22 PM

I had 6000"s with a 7095 controller on my 58G and now have them on my 80G and work great. I couldn't wait for the 6055's so went ahead and got the 6000's.

dhnguyen

11/15/2006, 07:35 PM

Whatever you decide, make sure to get the controllable versions of the Tunze otherwise no a non-controllable Tunze is not worth the money.

Mighty Dread

11/15/2006, 07:37 PM

Yes I was looking at getting the two 6000's with the controller.
...though I am having problems finding any online.

Nuuze

11/15/2006, 07:49 PM

You can ask Roger in the Tunze section if you don't find any...

Andrew

11/15/2006, 07:49 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8554245#post8554245 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mighty Dread
Should I get these new 6055's or just get the 6000's?

Up to you. I'm going to order a 6025 and try it out on my 75 to take care of a dead spot in my tank.

xinumaster

11/15/2006, 08:03 PM

I love it a got 2 6100 on my 90g but it was too strong still. I end up turn off the other unit. However I sold my 90g and keep the 6100s for my future 300g tank.

xinumaster

11/15/2006, 08:03 PM

I love it a got 2 6100 on my 90g but it was too strong still. I end up turn off the other unit. Low power and low heat transfer. However I sold my 90g and keep the 6100s for my future 300g tank.

Mighty Dread

11/15/2006, 08:14 PM

Where is this "tunze section"?

Andrew

11/15/2006, 08:30 PM

Tunze Sponser Forum:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=92

jag1979

11/15/2006, 08:34 PM

how much is the most powerful controllable nano w/ controller going to run?

Andrew

11/15/2006, 08:38 PM

6055- $202.93
6045- $96.63
6025- $61.84

Fishbulb2

11/15/2006, 08:47 PM

only the 6055 is controllable though
FB

dhnguyen

11/15/2006, 08:51 PM

Almost doesn't make sense to get a controllable nano 6055 at that price.

6055 - $202.93 at 1,453 gal/h

6000 - $259.96 at 1,850 gal/h

And if you should decide to upgrade the 6000 to a 6100 later, it's only a matter of swapping out the transformer.

Henry Bowman

11/15/2006, 09:43 PM

you can get them online from www.aquariumspecialty.com Scott is a good guy and wont steer you wrong.

TwistedTiger

11/15/2006, 10:37 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8555244#post8555244 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jag1979
how much is the most powerful controllable nano w/ controller going to run?
the 6055 is $202 plus another $59 for a single controller.

dkh0331

11/16/2006, 06:04 AM

IMPHO two 6000's w/ a 7095 would be a good choice for your tank. I have two 6100's on a BB tank and keep mine very low in the tank in the Tunze deco rocks. I really like the deco rocks for hiding the streams. I have been asked on several occasions why two of my rocks have holes in the center of them.

s10willy

11/16/2006, 06:48 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8555419#post8555419 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dhnguyen
Almost doesn't make sense to get a controllable nano 6055 at that price.

6055 - $202.93 at 1,453 gal/h

6000 - $259.96 at 1,850 gal/h

And if you should decide to upgrade the 6000 to a 6100 later, it's only a matter of swapping out the transformer.

That is exactly the thought I had. My 2 6000's and 7095 controller should be here by the end of the week. I like the option of upgrading later if I choose to get a larger tank.

geckofrog

11/16/2006, 09:42 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8555419#post8555419 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dhnguyen
Almost doesn't make sense to get a controllable nano 6055 at that price.

6055 - $202.93 at 1,453 gal/h

6000 - $259.96 at 1,850 gal/h

And if you should decide to upgrade the 6000 to a 6100 later, it's only a matter of swapping out the transformer.

I agree, but they take up less space :)
The normal Tunze Streams are very big IMO

jeffbrig

11/16/2006, 10:03 AM

The other thing to keep in mind is the swivel mount of the nano streams. The 6000/6100/6200 is very limited with a swivel mount, the nano can be directed up/down/sideways, wherever. I'm really hoping for a larger stream at some point with the new mount design.

To answer the OP's question, Tunze streams are worth it for large tanks. On smaller tanks, it's a harder decision. I have never regretted the money I spend on my Tunze setup (250g tank), although I have debated adding another... :D

RichConley

11/16/2006, 11:07 AM

IMO, the non controllable ones are definitely not worht it.

The controllable ones, thats up to you. If you feel pulsing is worth an extra $200+ per powerhead, than yeah, theyre worth it. I dont.

jmchzn

11/16/2006, 08:47 PM

enough said. get controller. heres a new twist on flow... the wave box!!! Changed my life. my mixed tank kicks!!! no dead spots no detritus and waves too!!

Mighty Dread

11/16/2006, 08:50 PM

I have seen those waveboxes in action - absolutely CRAZY! All that sloshing aroung is nuts! LOL

rufio173

11/30/2006, 10:59 AM

I disagree, I think they non-controllable ones are definitely worth it.

Without any modding or DIYing, you are getting an excellent flow source that you can actually cycle on and off (every 15 minutes) with a "wavemaker" that you can mount in ANY direction and it comes with an awesome magnet mount so you really can mount this sucker almost anywhere in your tank in any direction that you want. The profile is also pretty small for the flow that it delivers.

Peace,
John

dhnguyen

11/30/2006, 11:03 AM

BrokeColoReefer

11/30/2006, 11:08 AM

I like nice equipment, and i feel that the 6100x2 with controller was worth it. They do amazing things for my tank, i love the controller. I have tons of random flow in my tank now. After i figured the time and energy, the plumbing, and the power consumption of a closed loop the tunze made sense for me. I do feel that they are to expensive, but if you have the budget, you wont be dissapointed.

gasman059

11/30/2006, 02:10 PM

korallia baby, imo that's d ticket once they r out cheaper and great technology

dkh0331

11/30/2006, 02:25 PM

OK, search of korallia on RC and google search turn up nothing. Got a link?

dhnguyen

11/30/2006, 03:34 PM

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=983152

rufio173

12/02/2006, 01:26 PM

Hey dhnguyen,

Thanks for the link. That looks like it would probably be a great product as well. Although, I doubt it would be much cheaper than the Tunze nanostreams and honestly, at this point, I'm willing to pay a little bit more to get what I want for my tank.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for those things. They do look really nice. I hope they make that mounting stalk strong though. I'd hate to snap that sucker off. :(

Peace,
John

xtm

12/02/2006, 01:58 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8649086#post8649086 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rufio173
I disagree, I think they non-controllable ones are definitely worth it.

Without any modding or DIYing, you are getting an excellent flow source that you can actually cycle on and off (every 15 minutes) with a "wavemaker" that you can mount in ANY direction and it comes with an awesome magnet mount so you really can mount this sucker almost anywhere in your tank in any direction that you want. The profile is also pretty small for the flow that it delivers.

Peace,
John

The non-controllable ones (6060's and 6080's) are meant to be operated continuously. You cannot put these on a wavemaker. They also don't "come with a magnet mount". You have to buy the magnets separately.

On the the other hand, I agree with you 100% that even the Non-controllable ones are definitely worth the money. How many pumps out there can push ~1580 gph at a mere 11 watts? You will save money in the long run as far as electricity costs alone.. not to mention reliability.

Definitely worth the money IMO

xtm

12/02/2006, 01:59 PM

Some good reading... you decide :D

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_3/cav3i1/Powerhead_test/powerhead_comp.htm

rufio173

12/02/2006, 02:04 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8664728#post8664728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xtm
The non-controllable ones (6060's and 6080's) are meant to be operated continously. You cannot put these on a wavemaker.

On the the other hand I agree with you 100% that even the Non-controllable ones are definitely worth the money. How many pumps out there can push ~1580 gph at a mere 11 watts? You will save money in the long run as far as electricity costs alone.. not to mention reliability.

Definitely worth the money IMO

I am just going by what many people including Rvitko has said about these pumps... they can be placed on a timer that cycles them on and off every 15 minutes.

Of course this may shorten the life of the pump.... who knows by how much? For me, the randomness this can generate is worth it IMO.

Cheers,
John

dhnguyen

12/02/2006, 02:06 PM

That article is a bit old to be used for comparison IMO. As if Tunze is the ONLY propeller driven pumps available today :)

dhnguyen

12/02/2006, 02:10 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8664728#post8664728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xtm
The non-controllable ones (6060's and 6080's) are meant to be operated continously. You cannot put these on a wavemaker.

On the the other hand I agree with you 100% that even the Non-controllable ones are definitely worth the money. How many pumps out there can push ~1580 gph at a mere 11 watts? You will save money in the long run as far as electricity costs alone.. not to mention reliability.

Definitely worth the money IMO

To some I can see the non-controllable units are worth it especially for folks who can't or not willing to do a little DIY.

My MJ900 mod will give the Tunze 6060 a good run for its money and will do it at a mere 9 watts and at a fraction of the price of the Tunze.

Don't get me wrong I think Tunze do make some very nice propeller pumps but I think the days in which they dominate this market definitely are numbered.

RichConley

12/02/2006, 02:18 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8664728#post8664728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xtm
How many pumps out there can push ~1580 gph at a mere 11 watts? You will save money in the long run as far as electricity costs alone.. [/B]
How about Vortechs, or Maximods. The Maximods, for example, are significantly MORE efficient than the Tunzes. My maximod driving a dumas 3004 pulls 11w, and does probably 2800 gph.

xtm

12/02/2006, 03:26 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8664768#post8664768 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dhnguyen
That article is a bit old to be used for comparison IMO. As if Tunze is the ONLY propeller driven pumps available today :)

I wholeheartedly agree. However, the main question is "Are Tunze's worth it?" The answer is yes, as explained on that article. :D

Everybody seems to be raving about Maximod this Maximod that.. well, if you have the time to "mod" a powerhead then more power to ya :D Personally, I like things to work RIGHT out of the box - no modding required. I'd rather spend my time enjoying my tank than...err...modding a powerhead :confused:

It's like this... would you rather drive a modded Civic (Maximod) or drive a bone stock Supra? (Tunze) :D

rufio173

12/02/2006, 05:51 PM

xtm,

Uh Oh... You just cracked open up another whole set of controversy. Haha

Peace,
John

FVernese

12/03/2006, 09:01 AM

Does anyone know if the 7095 controller I have with 6100's can also control the new 6055s.?

Thanks

MiddletonMark

12/03/2006, 09:16 AM

There is not a new controller ... as far as I know, the 7091 single or 7095 multi can run any of the controllables [turbelles, nanostreams, streams].

I've been very happy with mine. [controllable + not].
My 6060 is used, bought for $75 w/ magnet - cheaper than any comparable product or mod - simple, easy, reliable.

---
Rich, Vortechs are not exactly cheap products, either. Low wattage, yes ... but comparable price.

Despite any disagreements, I bet everyone on this thread looks forward to more + more propeller/stream-type powerheads :)

crumbletop

12/03/2006, 02:58 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8669109#post8669109 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FVernese
Does anyone know if the 7095 controller I have with 6100's can also control the new 6055s.?

Thanks

Yep. The 7095 is supposed to control those.